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Old 11-15-2024, 08:24 AM   #14641
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I also think anyone abusing the TFW program should be subject to firm consequences. I'd be in favour of making sure there's an incentive to hire citizens/PRs first. Some sort of additional costs associated with hiring TFWs - either needing to pay them minimum wage + $3 or needing to pay $3/hr into the immigration system or something. Giving businesses an incentive to hire locally. I also think TFWs should have a certain amount of time to find new employment if they lose their current job, because the visa-linked system allows them to be abused by their employers.

Finally, in terms of absolute abuse I think these guys should all be incarcerated: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/n...at-didnt-exist
The problem is a lot of those companies are just looking to reduce long term costs and liabilities.

I know of large multinational companies who pay between $30-40/hour(so jobs that clearly a lot of citizens or PRs would work and apply for) that prefer to have people on a 2 year TFW contract so that they don’t end staying long term where they would eventually be entitled to up to 6-7 weeks vacation. Those companies prefer paying a little more in the short term to help to subsidize living costs for their TFWs so they can avoid having Canadians enjoy a long term career where they could eventually afford to buy a home and live a decent life. It’s sickening.
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The problem is a lot of those companies are just looking to reduce long term costs and liabilities.

I know of large multinational companies who pay between $30-40/hour(so jobs that clearly a lot of citizens or PRs would work and apply for) that prefer to have people on a 2 year TFW contract so that they don’t end staying long term where they would eventually be entitled to up to 6-7 weeks vacation. Those companies prefer paying a little more in the short term to help to subsidize living costs for their TFWs so they can avoid having Canadians enjoy a long term career where they could eventually afford to buy a home and live a decent life. It’s sickening.
What companies are doing this? I don’t think we need to protect these companies by withholding their names.
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Given the increasing and sheer volume of people that are let in, I doubt that much screening is done at all. This was just a few weeks ago.



https://globalnews.ca/news/10677883/...ity-screening/

The federal government is declining to explain how a Toronto man was able to immigrate to Canada despite allegedly having taken part in ISIS violence overseas.

Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi, 62, has been charged with committing an aggravated assault for the so-called Islamic State. The alleged incident took place outside Canada in 2015.

Sources have told Global News the charge stems from a video released by ISIS that year that shows a man dismembering a prisoner with a sword.

The RCMP arrested Eldidi and his son Mostafa, 26, at a hotel north of Toronto as they were allegedly about to commit a terrorist attack for ISIS. Police seized a machete and axe at the scene.

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada also did not answer questions, nor did the office of Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc, which referred the matter to the RCMP.

Kelly Sundberg, a professor at Calgary’s Mount Royal University, called it a blunder by a security screening system he said was inadequate and under-resourced.

“It’s a horrible failure,” he said.

Three sources told Global News that before they were taken into custody, the father and son had allegedly recorded a video showing them holding bladed weapons in front of an ISIS flag.


The four-minute video, titled “Deterring Spies,” shows a prisoner allegedly confessing before being led outside. He then appears suspended from a crucifix-like structure in the sand.

Arabic script in the video says that enemies of God are to be killed, crucified or have their hands and feet cut off. A middle-aged man is then shown wearing a black cap bearing the ISIS logo.

Using a sword, he hacks the hands and feet off the prisoner. His face is briefly visible in the video. It is unclear whether the victim was still alive during the incident.



https://globalnews.ca/news/10677883/...ity-screening/

A chronology tabled at the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security shows Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi landed at Toronto’s Pearson airport on Feb. 5, 2018 and made a refugee claim that was accepted in February 2019.

He became a Canadian citizen in May 2024, after the Canadian Security Intelligence Service screened him and “returned a favorable recommendation,” according to the timeline tabled by Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/muh...town-1.7322700

Muhammad Shahzeb Khan was arrested along with three other individuals in Ormstown, Que., on Wednesday, September 4 after travelling from his home in Toronto.

Immigration Minister Marc Miller said this week that Khan entered Canada on a student visa.

Khan, also known as Shazeb Jadoon, arrived in Toronto on June 24, 2023, one month after receiving his visa.

CBC News has reached out to several post-secondary institutions in the Toronto area. None of them agreed to comment on whether Khan was enrolled there.

He is the third person to be arrested in recent months and accused of plotting attacks on behalf of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

The Trudeau government launched a review of its screening procedures after the arrests of Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi, 62, and his son Mostafa Eldidi, 26, in Toronto in July. They are accused of plotting an attack on Canadian soil.

In that case, Canadian authorities were alerted by France after the Eldidis had been cleared by Canada's security screening.
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What companies are doing this? I don’t think we need to protect these companies by withholding their names.
Saw a while back that somebody made a map of LMIA (Labour Market Impact Assessment) applications. Pretty widespread across the country. Just importing low skill low wage bodies.

https://lmiamap.ca/noncompliantmap

EDIT: They've also tried to track non-compliant employers. This is also widespread across the country.

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What companies are doing this?
Big ones

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Do you really think me not posting their names online has anything to do with protect them?
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Do you really think me not posting their names online has anything to do with protect them?
Ummm. Ok.

So what are you afraid of?
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You are acting as if things are rosy for workers right now. Are they?
No they’re not. That doesn’t mean they can’t get worse.

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Now that the Canada Post strike is official, what's your over under on the Liberal - NDP coalition announcing another quick binding arbitration and another Singh Tweet about Trudeau and Poilievre being beholden to corporate greed, his current grandstanding catch phrase? I give the weekend + 1 before both happens.
I’d guess somewhere between 1-2 weeks, not agreeing with them doing so but that’s my guess. In any case would you take the over or under for how long a CPC majority would take to do the same? If you’re being honest, you’re taking under and you know that so stop pretending you don’t understand why Singh isn’t giving the CPC what they want by forcing an early election. I would appreciate if you actually answer this instead of dodging it as usual.

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So far, even though they claim to have ripped up the supply and confidence agreement, the NDP have done absolutely zero different then they have under the agreement and continue propping up the government. There's a reason why the working class including union workers have largely shifted away from the NDP to the CPC and not attracting voters despite the Liberal collapse and vowing to fight for workers. People are tuning out.
Confirmation bias on your part regarding labour. Right or wrong from a reasoning standpoint workers are more disenfranchised with their other policies.

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You call what I'm doing (calling a spade a spade) grandstanding and you may be right that their situation won't improve, yet all I see coming from the NDP are tweets and statements
Again, you know exactly why Singh isn’t giving Pierre an early election. It’s completely disingenuous for you to pretend that there is no reason to believe the CPC wouldn’t try to reduce the rights of workers. It’s literally in their policy declaration.

To be fair though, some of their MPs are trying to change that by reaching out to labour organizations but until they actually convince the party do something of substance that is pro-labour people are justifiably going to remain skeptical of the CPC being labour friendly. But as I’ve said many times before, I hope they do the right thing. No not that right, the other right.

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https://www.ndp.ca/news/singh-blasts...-attack-unions


They look identical, the only thing that has happened in between was the publicity stunt in front of the media, yet not a single action of consequence has occurred to help workers while having their right to strike annuled. I do love the self published "Singh blasts Trudeau!". Indeed Singh. Indeed.
By keeping the CPC out a little while longer it allows the Unions representing other federally regulated industries time to make gains while they know their leverage hasn’t been reduced as much as it potentially, and likely would be under a CPC majority. That matters even if you can’t comprehend why.

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We know for sure workers aren't improving under the Liberal - NDP coalition with Singh at the helm. Champagne socialism only goes so far before angry people wake up and vote for an alternative.
This isn’t actually accurate. While there are numerous problems to list with this coalition government and their handling of multiple labour disputes, there have been a number of very big gains made both at the bargaining table and through legislation passed for workers at federally regulated companies. I get that you’re probably not very well informed on these types of things but why blatantly make stuff up when there’s numerous legitimate things to criticize the government over?
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Ummm. Ok.

So what are you afraid of?
Why do you use the handle Doctorfever instead of your real name?
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Why do you use the handle Doctorfever instead of your real name?
Hahaha.

You could bale the straw (man).

It’s ok. If you are too afraid to expose these corporations I will let it go.
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Hahaha.

You could bale the straw (man).

It’s ok. If you are too afraid to expose these corporations I will let it go.
I guess certain concepts, like confidentiality, are selectively foreign to some.

Odd coming from a doctor
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I guess certain concepts, like confidentiality, are selectively foreign to some.

Odd coming from a doctor
If, in fact, I am a doctor.

I guess posting anonymously on a message board is too much for some.

Anyways. I know secrets you don’t know.

Ya big chicken. /g.
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If, in fact, I am a doctor.

I guess posting anonymously on a message board is too much for some.

Anyways. I know secrets you don’t know.

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Update today from Immigration Canada after they only JUST STARTED to check student acceptance letters. Ridiculous that they only just started this process, no wonder Trudeau thinks immigration is out of control. Just widespread fraud.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...-be-fake-says/

More than 10,000 foreign student acceptance letters may be fake, says top immigration official

Bronwyn May, director-general of the International Students Branch at the Immigration Department, told MPs last week that since IRCC started verifying acceptance letters from colleges and universities in the past year, officials have “intercepted more than 10,000 potentially fraudulent letters of acceptance.”
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The problem is a lot of those companies are just looking to reduce long term costs and liabilities.

I know of large multinational companies who pay between $30-40/hour(so jobs that clearly a lot of citizens or PRs would work and apply for) that prefer to have people on a 2 year TFW contract so that they don’t end staying long term where they would eventually be entitled to up to 6-7 weeks vacation. Those companies prefer paying a little more in the short term to help to subsidize living costs for their TFWs so they can avoid having Canadians enjoy a long term career where they could eventually afford to buy a home and live a decent life. It’s sickening.
What TFW would ever be entitled to 6-7 weeks vacation? the maximum entitlement in Alberta is 3 weeks unless you are part of some kind of Union Agreement.
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Two things recent elections in the U.S. and elsewhere have taught us about voters: They hate inflation, and they hate unregulated and fraudulent immigration.

Miller has said he’s “kicking himself” over trusting the provinces and institutions to regulate themselves. And he has a point. Provincial governments grappling with ever-increasing health care costs find post-secondary education an easier target for cuts. Those institutions make up for funding shortfalls by turning to the cash cow of international students. Which in turn puts pressure on housing, which is largely a municipal matter.

The feds blame the provinces. The provinces blame the schools. The schools blame municipalities. One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing until we have a crisis that all the stakeholders blame on someone else. It’s a microcosm of the dysfunctional relationships between federal, provincial, and municipal governments in this country.

The Liberals are desperately back-pedalling, but it’s too little too late. In the eyes of the public, the feds own immigration and any attendant problems that come with it. The Liberal brand is going to be associated with bewildering negligence for a long time, and the Cons under Poilievre have wind in theirs sails that they probably don’t deserve.
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What TFW would ever be entitled to 6-7 weeks vacation?
That’s exactly my point, they’ll never be entitled to it. They’ll also likely be hired at entry level rates and not be able to progress wage wise either.

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No need to exaggerate, there are employers out there who offer their non-union employees above the minimums required under legislated employment standards, even in Alberta. But yeah, unionized employees generally get much more than those minimums required under employment standards and non-union employees if that’s the point you wanted to get across. They also can’t have their employment terminated without cause right before becoming entitled to a benefit increase like an additional week of paid vacation.
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Oh Randy B., what a joke you have become. I actually thought he had some semblance of potentially being a good person when he first got elected but he has revealed that he is awful like most politicians.

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Oh Randy B., what a joke you have become. I actually thought he had some semblance of potentially being a good person when he first got elected but he has revealed that he is awful like most politicians.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boi...nous-1.7384549
That is the whitest of white men that were ever white. He thought telling people he was indigenous and that people bought that?
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Two things recent elections in the U.S. and elsewhere have taught us about voters: They hate inflation, and they hate unregulated and fraudulent immigration.

Miller has said he’s “kicking himself” over trusting the provinces and institutions to regulate themselves. And he has a point. Provincial governments grappling with ever-increasing health care costs find post-secondary education an easier target for cuts. Those institutions make up for funding shortfalls by turning to the cash cow of international students. Which in turn puts pressure on housing, which is largely a municipal matter.

The feds blame the provinces. The provinces blame the schools. The schools blame municipalities. One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing until we have a crisis that all the stakeholders blame on someone else. It’s a microcosm of the dysfunctional relationships between federal, provincial, and municipal governments in this country.

The Liberals are desperately back-pedalling, but it’s too little too late. In the eyes of the public, the feds own immigration and any attendant problems that come with it. The Liberal brand is going to be associated with bewildering negligence for a long time, and the Cons under Poilievre have wind in theirs sails that they probably don’t deserve.
A perfect example of s*** rolling downhill. And who suffers the most...the ordinary Canadian, along with the poor immigrant.

Miller is just passing the buck. The Federal Government should have acted long before they did. The hesitation to act, probably inspired by the fear of losing votes, is the reason they deserve their unpopularity in the polls.

Whether you like Poilievre or not, this country is long overdue for a change at the top.
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Two things recent elections in the U.S. and elsewhere have taught us about voters: They hate inflation, and they hate unregulated and fraudulent immigration.

Miller has said he’s “kicking himself” over trusting the provinces and institutions to regulate themselves. And he has a point. Provincial governments grappling with ever-increasing health care costs find post-secondary education an easier target for cuts. Those institutions make up for funding shortfalls by turning to the cash cow of international students. Which in turn puts pressure on housing, which is largely a municipal matter.

The feds blame the provinces. The provinces blame the schools. The schools blame municipalities. One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing until we have a crisis that all the stakeholders blame on someone else. It’s a microcosm of the dysfunctional relationships between federal, provincial, and municipal governments in this country.

The Liberals are desperately back-pedalling, but it’s too little too late. In the eyes of the public, the feds own immigration and any attendant problems that come with it. The Liberal brand is going to be associated with bewildering negligence for a long time, and the Cons under Poilievre have wind in theirs sails that they probably don’t deserve.
I don’t think foreign students at real universities is the issue that is driving the student immigration problem. It’s a terrible way to fund a university and limits access to Canadians but it’s a separate issue from the diploma mills and fake schools.
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