Dexter

[Lil Pedro]

Looks like Deb is going to eventually end up on Dexters table

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Short Shift

Spoiler!

Because the babysitter's boyfriend used Dexter's laptop without permission and got ripped a new one. He felt slighted and used the banking info to cancel all Dexter's accounts online as revenge.

I can't believe I forgot that, makes sense

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

Looks like Deb is going to eventually end up on Dexters table

Nope. Dexter's Bed. They are eventually going to get married and start a Family.

Because they love eachother.

[Lil Pedro]

That would make for some crazy water cooler talk at Miami Metro...

[rabenson000]

Showtime has the season 7 premiere on Youtube

Spoiler!

[RW99]

Originally Posted by rabenson000

Showtime has the season 7 premiere on Youtube

Spoiler!

Only if you are American.

[JonDuke]

Tonight was one of my least favorite episodes for sure. I felt like turning off the TV the whole first half, but am excited after seeing the preview of the rest of this season.

[secol]

i didn't think the episode was that bad

[Flames0910]

I thought it was pretty good, especially compared to the last season. IMO the show has always been at it's best when it forces us to consider whether Dexter is a product of nature vs. nurture. What would have happened if Harry had provided Dexter with a different code? Everybody has their demons (obviously the urge to kill is a pretty big one), but maybe he could have learned to control it or channel it into something productive. I'm liking the direction this season is taking so far.

[1stLand]

Dexter is an IDIOT!

He should have killed the creepy intern while he had the chance. Now he is going to scew up Dexter's life.

Dexter gets himself into trouble by prolonging his kills..

Should have killed John Lithgow's character earlier and RITA would still be alive.

Should have killed Travis off earlier and Deb would never would have seen him on Dexter's table.

This show is too predictable. Dexter grappling with whether or not to kill, eventually decides to kill the person, but only after more innocent people get killed. Rinse and repeat.

[VladtheImpaler]

I think I've had enough of the stupidity now. OK, so Deb knows, and Dexter is being honest, so... WHY THE FATA DIDN'T HE TELL HER HE HAS ALREADY KILLED THE SUSPECT IN THEIR "BIG CASE"???!!! Fata me - I think that's the moment where the show officially jumped the shark (for me), and I have now lost interest. I might wind up watching the rest just because Mrs. Impaler wants to, but I don't care anymore...

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

I thought it was pretty good, especially compared to the last season. IMO the show has always been at it's best when it forces us to consider whether Dexter is a product of nature vs. nurture. What would have happened if Harry had provided Dexter with a different code? Everybody has their demons (obviously the urge to kill is a pretty big one), but maybe he could have learned to control it or channel it into something productive. I'm liking the direction this season is taking so far.

I agree 100%. Although the premise can be a tad flaky at times, I'm really excited to see Dex on the run again and making tough decisions.

Originally Posted by 1stLand

Dexter is an IDIOT!

He should have killed the creepy intern while he had the chance. Now he is going to scew up Dexter's life.

Except that's against the code. Kind of defeats the purpose of the entire show.

Dexter gets himself into trouble by prolonging his kills..

And here a few of us were complaining last week that it seems like sometimes he doesn't adhere closely enough with the code. It gets really silly when he just kills based on such lame evidence.

I do somewhat agree that he often delays for the wrong reasons, ie selfish ones. With both Travis and Trinity he felt he'd be learning something from them.

Should have killed John Lithgow's character earlier and RITA would still be alive.

Should have killed Travis off earlier and Deb would never would have seen him on Dexter's table.

This show is too predictable. Dexter grappling with whether or not to kill, eventually decides to kill the person, but only after more innocent people get killed. Rinse and repeat.

That is definitely not the vibe I've been getting and I don't think that is an accurate portrayal of Dexter's mentality at all.

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I think I've had enough of the stupidity now. OK, so Deb knows, and Dexter is being honest, so... WHY THE FATA DIDN'T HE TELL HER HE HAS ALREADY KILLED THE SUSPECT IN THEIR "BIG CASE"???!!! Fata me - I think that's the moment where the show officially jumped the shark (for me), and I have now lost interest. I might wind up watching the rest just because Mrs. Impaler wants to, but I don't care anymore...

Uhhh, no he's not.

Dexter is a very, very private character. He only lets the minimum amount of information leak in order to avoid getting in trouble. He's always done this. It is exactly what he did with Rita when she thought he was an addict. It's what he does with every character.

He is anything but honest with Deb. He's going to continue to hide vast amounts of information from her and only give her the bare minimum to keep her off his back.

Of all the stuff that could be considered unrealistic in this show it seems really bizarre that such an innocuous development could ruin it for you.

In fact, I'd say that one of the most consitent themes in all 7 seasons that has been there without fail, is Dexter's internal struggle with being seen for who he really is. He has this intense fear, often justified, that opening up will mean his entire life will come crashing down. He opened up with Lela (the crazy british broad, that's her name right?) and although it helped him in the end with Doakes, it was still a horrible situation. He opened up with Miguel and that went awry. He opened up with Trinity, to a certain extent, and it got his wife killed. He opened up with Lumen and she ditched him. He opened up with Deb and now she's afraid of him (or is that in love with him). He opened up with his father and he killed himself. In most scenarios he's either slipped up and given up info, it's been found out against his will or he's actually found relief in letting that info out and not be persecuted.


I thought it was a pretty strong episode, except for the lame scene where the intern guy pretended that he's been harrassing Dex just because of the game rejection. That can't be all there is to that.

Oh and it is lame that he lets Harrison live in his old place despite the fact that he's moved out. They really glossed over that one. Who's watching this kid? Is Angel's sister just going to adopt the kid or what?

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Of all the stuff that could be considered unrealistic in this show it seems really bizarre that such an innocuous development could ruin it for you.
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Oh and it is lame that he lets Harrison live in his old place despite the fact that he's moved out. They really glossed over that one. Who's watching this kid? Is Angel's sister just going to adopt the kid or what?

Yeah, that too. I know it's innocuous, but it's the proverbial "last straw" for me.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

A link discussing some stuff about next week. Obviously there are a few minor spoilers. There is also about a 2 min scene from next week's episode.

Spoiler!

Definitely not what I expected. Perhaps I wasn't listening as closely as I should have but I totally missed the part about the murderer Dex was talking to referring to an accomplice.

http://www.cinemablend.com/televisio...tem-47926.html

[iggyformayor]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

A link discussing some stuff about next week. Obviously there are a few minor spoilers. There is also about a 2 min scene from next week's episode.

Spoiler!

Definitely not what I expected. Perhaps I wasn't listening as closely as I should have but I totally missed the part about the murderer Dex was talking to referring to an accomplice.

http://www.cinemablend.com/televisio...tem-47926.html

There was a referance to it. Doesn't really matter, though. I've been looking forward to Yvonne Strahovski all summer

[Hemi-Cuda]

just watched the first 2 episodes. what i don't get is that in season 5, Deb catches Dexter in the act (unwittingly) but lets him go because she sympathizes with a killer who targets evil people. but when she finally does figure out who Dexter really is suddenly she's "this close" to turning him in then devotes all her effort into changing him? it's like the writers have no memory of what they did in prior seasons sometimes

oh and so Deb figured out that Dexter is the bay harbor butcher, but doesn't inquire with him about what really happened to Doakes? another wild inconsistency considering how utterly determined they usually show her

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

just watched the first 2 episodes. what i don't get is that in season 5, Deb catches Dexter in the act (unwittingly) but lets him go because she sympathizes with a killer who targets evil people. but when she finally does figure out who Dexter really is suddenly she's "this close" to turning him in then devotes all her effort into changing him? it's like the writers have no memory of what they did in prior seasons sometimes

oh and so Deb figured out that Dexter is the bay harbor butcher, but doesn't inquire with him about what really happened to Doakes? another wild inconsistency considering how utterly determined they usually show her

She let him go initially because she thought he "snapped" and it was a one-off emotional outburst thing. When she figures out he's actually a serial murderer, that puts it in a whole new perspective as far as turning him in.

The Doakes thing is a good point, but might interfere with the LaGuerta storyline they are developing.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

She let him go initially because she thought he "snapped" and it was a one-off emotional outburst thing. When she figures out he's actually a serial murderer, that puts it in a whole new perspective as far as turning him in.

The Doakes thing is a good point, but might interfere with the LaGuerta storyline they are developing.

no, i'm talking about when Deb first catches Dexter (though she doesn't know it) in season 5 when Dexter and Lumen are behind a plastic screen. she sympathizes with someone she doesn't know who kills the merry band of rapists and murderers, and lets them go. but when she does catch her brother in the act, then she freaks out. doesn't add up

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

no, i'm talking about when Deb first catches Dexter (though she doesn't know it) in season 5 when Dexter and Lumen are behind a plastic screen. she sympathizes with someone she doesn't know who kills the merry band of rapists and murderers, and lets them go. but when she does catch her brother in the act, then she freaks out. doesn't add up

Deb is volatile emotionally and it's not out of character for emotions to override her normally rigid morals. IIRC, she romanticised the idea of a man helping get vengeance for a female victim that escaped. It's also very different to know that there's a killer out there compared to readily accepting someone very close to you being a killer.

Despite freaking out, she's still mostly letting her emotions take precedence by not turning Dexter in. The fact she is somewhat protecting herself because she was an accessory to murder doesn't seem to be a very big factor in her motivations because she immediately brushed him off when Dexter offered to take all the blame and keep her out of it.

[CaptainCraig]

I understand Deb wondering about Doakes, but the big one for me is Rita. Wouldn't Deb think twice that Dexter's wife was murdered and Dexter is a serial killer?