2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well we don’t know about Zary he hasn’t had the chance.

We are force fed Sharangovich and Pospisil. Time accept they are wingers and move on.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

They can trade the NJ pick

And if they do, does that automatically give the Habs the Flames' own 2025 pick? I can't remember the conditions, but if so, that would be the same as trading away the higher pick.

Edit, as pointed out below, it's the Panthers' pick that could be swapped, not the Devils' pick.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

And if they do, does that automatically give the Habs the Flames' own 2025 pick? I can't remember the conditions, but if so, that would be the same as trading away the higher pick.

No, the NJD pick is not related to the Flames pick

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

And if they do, does that automatically give the Habs the Flames' own 2025 pick? I can't remember the conditions, but if so, that would be the same as trading away the higher pick.

Nope it's the Panthers pick that's the other pick in the conditions of the Montreal trade

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

And if they do, does that automatically give the Habs the Flames' own 2025 pick? I can't remember the conditions, but if so, that would be the same as trading away the higher pick.

The NJ pick has nothing to do with Montreal.

If it’s top 10 this year it transfers to unprotected in 26.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

And if they do, does that automatically give the Habs the Flames' own 2025 pick? I can't remember the conditions, but if so, that would be the same as trading away the higher pick.

Nope. That’s tied up with Florida’s pick. Assuming the Panthers don’t implode and finish outside of the playoffs it is just a question of whether the Flames finish in the bottom ten or not. If they do the Habs will get Florida’s pick, if they don’t then they will get the Flames pick.

[Sandman]

I’m a draft observer, and yet I get a headache trying to keep track of what’s going on with our picks, even after sureLoss wrote up a blueprint, lol. I’m getting old and dumb, lol.

[stemit14]

That pick owed to Montreal is so frustrating. I agree with everyone that says we should just enjoy the season and not think about it but it’s tough. If not for that pick being in play… the team’s record, who they trade away, or who they trade for would not concern me too much. This would be looked at as a “free year” (similar to 2013-2014 and 2014-2015).

If the flames did poorly and ended up with a high pick - great! Building for the future by adding some elite talent. If the flames did well enough to make the playoffs… great! Surprised the league and battled against the odds to bring playoff hockey to Calgary. If they just missed the playoffs - great! Still have 3 first round picks (with at least one of them being a top 20 pick) and the young guys got a great experience pushing to the end of the season.

But with the flames first round pick in danger of being taken away and being an 11th to 16th overall pick, it makes the “worst case” for the flames really gut-wrenching for a team that is just starting its rebuild. I was honestly hoping Montreal would play well this year and be willing to trade that pick back to Calgary for something (Andersson/Coleman + salary dump) just to take the stress off of where the flames finished in the standings.

I’m always cheering for the flames to win every game I watch. Just wish the stakes weren’t so high in a year that should have been pretty stress-free as a flames fan.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by stemit14

That pick owed to Montreal is so frustrating. I agree with everyone that says we should just enjoy the season and not think about it but it’s tough. If not for that pick being in play… the team’s record, who they trade away, or who they trade for would not concern me too much. This would be looked at as a “free year” (similar to 2013-2014 and 2014-2015).

If the flames did poorly and ended up with a high pick - great! Building for the future by adding some elite talent. If the flames did well enough to make the playoffs… great! Surprised the league and battled against the odds to bring playoff hockey to Calgary. If they just missed the playoffs - great! Still have 3 first round picks (with at least one of them being a top 20 pick) and the young guys got a great experience pushing to the end of the season.

But with the flames first round pick in danger of being taken away and being an 11th to 16th overall pick, it makes the “worst case” for the flames really gut-wrenching for a team that is just starting its rebuild. I was honestly hoping Montreal would play well this year and be willing to trade that pick back to Calgary for something (Andersson/Coleman + salary dump) just to take the stress off of where the flames finished in the standings.

I’m always cheering for the flames to win every game I watch. Just wish the stakes weren’t so high in a year that should have been pretty stress-free as a flames fan.

Cheer for them to make the playoffs...then who cares

If they make the playoffs Wolf is probably the best young goalie in the league among other young players being far better than forecasted. IF they lose the 11th pick hope like hell they get a steal with the other two. Its just a game, enjoy wins. 11th overalls aren't slam dunks anyway, far from it.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I’m a draft observer, and yet I get a headache trying to keep track of what’s going on with our picks, even after sureLoss wrote up a blueprint, lol. I’m getting old and dumb, lol.

Scenario A, which included the conditions involving the 2024 draft, is impossible, so these are the conditions.

2025 1st round pick (CGY) [Conditional]

Scenario B: If CGY gets FLA’s 2025 1st, (which it will unless FLA’s 2025 1st is a lottery pick)

1. If CGY’s AND FLA’s 2025 1sts are not top 10, MTL gets the better 1st.

2. If CGY’s 1st is top 10, and FLA’s 1st is not top 10, MTL gets FLA’s 1st.

Scenario C: If CGY does not get FLA’s 2025 1st (because FLA’s 2025 1st is a lottery pick), which means CGY gets FLA’s 2026 1st:

Sub-scenario C1: If CGY’s 2025 1st is not top 10

1. MTL gets CGY’s 2025 1st, and

2. MTL gets CGY’s 2025 4th if FLA’s 2025 1st is not top 10.

Sub-scenario C2: If CGY’s 2025 1st is top 10:

1. If CGY’s 2025 1st is 1OA, MTL gets CGY’s 2025 3rd + the better of CGY and FLA’s 2026 1sts; or

2. If CGY’s 2025 1st is 2OA-10OA, MTL gets CGY’s 2025 1st.

[Harry Lime]

So, the worst case scenario is if calgary gets 1OA, Montreal gets an unprotected 2026 1st, when 2026 has a higher ceiling on the players in the lottery pick range.

Best case scenario, calgary picks 2OA or 3OA and Montreal gets Florida's pick. So win the lottery, just don't win it too much.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

So, the worst case scenario is if calgary gets 1OA, Montreal gets an unprotected 2026 1st, when 2026 has a higher ceiling on the players in the lottery pick range.

Or we lose 2OA in 2025. Luckily, i really doubt FLA’s pick is gonna be a lottery pick. So, I think the worst case scenario, which is likely, is we lose 11OA in 2025 and keep a very late 1st rounder in return.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

So, the worst case scenario is if calgary gets 1OA, Montreal gets an unprotected 2026 1st, when 2026 has a higher ceiling on the players in the lottery pick range.

Best case scenario, calgary picks 2OA or 3OA and Montreal gets Florida's pick. So win the lottery, just don't win it too much.

I think this might be wrong. If the Flames get 1OA then Montreal gets the Panthers pick this year and not our own pick in 2026. Panthers are playing so well I can’t see how that pick will not convey this year as it is top 10 protected

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well we don’t know about Zary he hasn’t had the chance.

We are force fed Sharangovich and Pospisil. Time accept they are wingers and move on.

They tried Zary in the preseason and it didn't look good. I could see them revisiting it again if the games start to become meaningless.

[Bingo]

Anyone else find it odd that some veterans may want out now?

The team is in a divisional playoff spot and three games over .500.

Does that say the players don't believe they'll stay this high in the standings? Or that they wanted out all along and the start means little?

[Robbob]

I do find it a bit odd. I thought a lot of the vets that were around were all saying the same thing about the mentality of us against the world, which brings the team closer together. It very well could just be media speak.

Wanting out now kind of gives the impression that they want the easy way out, because the only way this team will win, is if they grind it out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Anyone else find it odd that some veterans may want out now?

The team is in a divisional playoff spot and three games over .500.

Does that say the players don't believe they'll stay this high in the standings? Or that they wanted out all along and the start means little?

They likely wanted out when they saw the direction in the offseason. Probably want to go to a contender, and we know how that usually works out.

[Tbull8]

Obviously its all just speculation for now, but who are we thinking?

Andersson?
Kuzy?
Kadri was just in an interview the other day talking about how he's very happy in Calgary
Huberdeau is immovable
Coleman maybe but he also seems to have settled in with his family so maybe he's not chasing a cup the same as other guys

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think this might be wrong. If the Flames get 1OA then Montreal gets the Panthers pick this year and not our own pick in 2026. Panthers are playing so well I can’t see how that pick will not convey this year as it is top 10 protected

I wish Brad Treliving wasn't such a terrible GM. We can only hope he ruins the Leafs as bad or worse as he did the Flames.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Anyone else find it odd that some veterans may want out now?

The team is in a divisional playoff spot and three games over .500.

Does that say the players don't believe they'll stay this high in the standings? Or that they wanted out all along and the start means little?

I think it was an all along thing. I'm Surprised Royle heard it's Weegar as one of them open to moving.

Made sense for Razz as the remaining core guys from the biggest chunk of his tenure are Backs and Coleman. Why wouldn't he be open too moving, everyone else has.

Coleman may feel he got a raw deal since they tore it down midway through his contract. But he's a guy along with Weegar I'd keep around.