MF YYC Politics - there, I mega did it

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Why should the government be subsidizing ‘an insane amount of money’ for people to store their private property? Land has value and it is a disservice to the taxpayer to not get proper value from it.

My quote about insane amount of money was the taxpayer funded arena for the Flames. I may be wrong but the city is trying to recoup a million in enforcement related costs in this parking situation. Personally there is enough of a surplus and enough in the existing pie to offset that, I am sure there is enough fine revenue generated to offset the expense as well but that's my opinion.

[BlackArcher101]

I bet the fines would recover the costs of enforcement, not the admin of the pass program.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by curves2000

My quote about insane amount of money was the taxpayer funded arena for the Flames. I may be wrong but the city is trying to recoup a million in enforcement related costs in this parking situation. Personally there is enough of a surplus and enough in the existing pie to offset that, I am sure there is enough fine revenue generated to offset the expense as well but that's my opinion.

I think this makes sense (maybe) in the denser areas where street space is at a premium but if maximizing value if the goal, why not just put this on all streets.

Go to Pineridge (or most neighborhoods), there's thousands of cars on the streets parked all the time. Why not charge them all $1000/year everywhere. Since the City is a business and extracting value is key.

Charge to park in city facilites/leisure centres.

Why does the parking need to be very difficult to come by to need to have a charge? Charge everywhere. Get a fleet of parkplus vehicles and we could eliminate property taxes with the revenue.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by fotze2

i think this makes sense (maybe) in the denser areas where street space is at a premium but if maximizing value if the goal, why not just put this on all streets.

Go to pineridge (or most neighborhoods), there's thousands of cars on the streets parked all the time. Why not charge them all $1000/year everywhere. Since the city is a business and extracting value is key.

Charge to park in city facilites/leisure centres.

Why does the parking need to be very difficult to come by to need to have a charge? Charge everywhere. Get a fleet of parkplus vehicles and we could eliminate property taxes make transit free and effective with the revenue.

fyp.

[BlackArcher101]

Lets also tax based on the size of the vehicle. Want to park a lifted F350 on the street? That's gonna cost $1500. Want to park a scooter or motorcycle? That's $50.

[timun]

Users of the MyParking app with motorcycles and cars less than 3.8 m long (there aren't many cars out there meeting this requirement; a Fiat 500 is 3.6 m for reference) get a 25% discount in Park Plus zones.

[Weitz]

More concerning is this council seems to just roll out policy and then backtrack when people complain. Great leaders we have.

[Faust]

Calgary City Council’s Hesitation On Housing:

https://www.sprawlcalgary.com/city-c...using-strategy

[Faust]

Local Access Fee to be reviewed, possible formula change, prescribed by Calgary city council:

https://livewirecalgary.com/2023/09/...hange-calgary/

[Faust]

Alex Middleton

Supports Housing Task Force recommendations:

CPC Housing Critic
LPC Minister of Housing
MP Rempel
Calgary Chamber
Business Council of Alberta
90+ Calgary non-profits
Every students' assoc.

Against:
Greg McLean
Jeff Davison
Elbow Park residents
Rando angry NIMBY bots
#yyccc

https://twitter.com/alexyyc/status/1...212038672?s=21

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Faust

Local Access Fee to be reviewed, possible formula change, prescribed by Calgary city council:

https://livewirecalgary.com/2023/09/...hange-calgary/

I don't even understand the purpose of that fee. I had read it is charged to Enmax in lieu of property taxes for facilities on city land. But the city owns Enmax, so we pay their property tax for them, and then the fee goes back to city coffers. So if the city is giving Enmax free property tax, why not just do that and drop the fee? We'll end up making the difference in our property taxes anyway. It seems baffling convoluted for no good reason at all.

[Fuzz]

Oh, and the fee formula includes a multiplication factor based on the RRO...the same RRO Smith had artificially reduced for election grifting, and is now higher to make up for that. So the Enmax fee is artificially higher based on that, I think.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I don't even understand the purpose of that fee. I had read it is charged to Enmax in lieu of property taxes for facilities on city land. But the city owns Enmax, so we pay their property tax for them, and then the fee goes back to city coffers. So if the city is giving Enmax free property tax, why not just do that and drop the fee? We'll end up making the difference in our property taxes anyway. It seems baffling convoluted for no good reason at all.

[Bigtime]

Good thread on that Local Access Fee here:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1701272610875822096

[timun]

Xitter doesn't show a thread. What did this person write?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by timun

Xitter doesn't show a thread. What did this person write?

Here's the thread on Nitter:


https://nitter.net/bcshaffer/status/1701272610875822096

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Hey! Dont lump us in with that lunatic!

But yes.

[Bigtime]

CBC's Scott Dippel's twitter feed will be good to monitor todays proceedings:

https://twitter.com/CBCScott

[Bigtime]

The Feds weighing in this morning with a pretty big stick.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1702348996621320528

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Good thread on that Local Access Fee here:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1701272610875822096

No we need a city spokesboob to justify the $15/month difference by dividing it by the number of days. It's only 50 cents a day!!!! what's the big deal? 2 cents an hour. People are complaining about 2 cents an hour? Come one!