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[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by blankall

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza

Pizza was intially the name given to flatbread sold to the poor on street corners. It did no intially contain cheese, oil, or tomatoes.

Anything remotely resembling a modern pizza was not produced until the late 1700s. The dish commonly called pizza today, which has bread, tomato sauce, and importantly cheese, was not created until 1889.

Spreading some oilve oil on bread is hardly a novel concept that belongs to any one culture. That's where the roots of modern day pizza come from, but there's little in common with that and a modern pizza. That's more a history of the term "pizza" as oppossed to the modern food, which was created in 1889.

from the wiki article:

The veracity of the royal pizza is then in doubt, and a mention of a pizza in 1847 with “basil, muzzarella, and tomatoes” shows that this combination was in any event already in existence prior to 1889.

so at least since 1847, likely even before that (I don't know how likely were southern-Italy peasants to keep long lasting records of their recipes).

And that's jut pizza (compared to a burger, if you will).

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

from the wiki article:

The veracity of the royal pizza is then in doubt, and a mention of a pizza in 1847 with “basil, muzzarella, and tomatoes” shows that this combination was in any event already in existence prior to 1889.

so at least since 1847, likely even before that (I don't know how likely were southern-Italy peasants to keep long lasting records of their recipes).

And that's jut pizza (compared to a burger, if you will).

Regardless of whether the combination of cheese, tomatoe, and bread existed prior to 1897, there's still nothing to suggest it became a common cuisine in Italy until very recently.

[DropIt]

Blake Comeau takes to much flak

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by blankall

I'm pretty sure that was quite easily predictable. Black music always gets butchered into radio-friendly versions performed by high selling "edgy" white artists.

Elvis

[valo403]

Originally Posted by blankall

More just a statement about how Italians, French, etc... can be so snobbish about the tradition involved in their food. You'd think it would go back 1000s of years, when in reality most of it originated in the late 1800s. If food that is only 120 or so years old is considered "traditional", then why not a McDonalds hamburger that is 60-70 years old. A&W has been around since 1919...

I'm not saying that you shouldn't define or associate foods with your culture. You just need to drop the snobiness. The attitude that North American cuisine is "new" and should, therefore, be less regarded is the main issue I have with this false sense of traditionalism. I quite like Italian food.

Most of what you consider "Italian food" likely isn't even close to traditional Italian cuisine anyways.

Food traditions involve a heck of a lot more than the ingredients. It's about the techniques and the attitudes towards food more than anything else.

[troutman]

Sofia Vergara is a shrill harpy, and therefore unattractive. "Jaaaaay! Jaaaaaay!".

[Hevishot]

[QUOTE=valo403;4061311]Most of what you consider "Italian food" likely isn't even close to traditional Italian cuisine anyways. QUOTE]


True statement! Most people assume Italian food is whatever they can get at Olive Garden or because they bought canned tomatoes at the Italian store they are making traditional sauce

[LChoy]

This could be said about a lot of other cuisine.
For me, what I know as traditional Chinese food is different than what non-Chinese people associated it as

[PsYcNeT]

Traditional Chinese food is all over the map, depending on which region it originates from. My wife's family is from Tianjin (NE China) and they favor a salty dish.

So much salt.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by troutman

Sofia Vergara is a shrill harpy, and therefore unattractive. "Jaaaaay! Jaaaaaay!".

That's the character, not the outrageous babe.

[Bmuzyka]

Originally Posted by troutman

Sofia Vergara is a shrill harpy, and therefore unattractive. "Jaaaaay! Jaaaaaay!".

It goes away when you gag her

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by troutman

Sofia Vergara is a shrill harpy, and therefore unattractive. "Jaaaaay! Jaaaaaay!".

No mute button on the remote?

[johnnyrocket03]

I dislike the ridiculous complaints people have in the FOI forum.

From who does play by play to the goal song or the music in general at the Dome I think it is beyond stupid to complain about these things. Rob Kerr isnt that bad, and neither is the goal song or the music played there, we really must be the most uptight and least fun fanbase in the NHL. No wonder its as quiet as it is there all the time, no one pays attention to the play and spends all of their time whining about too much cotton eyed joe or not enough *insert obscure metal, hipster or rap song here*

And yes, I realize this also could have gone in the GMG thread.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by johnnyrocket03

I dislike the ridiculous complaints people have in the FOI forum.

From who does play by play to the goal song or the music in general at the Dome I think it is beyond stupid to complain about these things. Rob Kerr isnt that bad, and neither is the goal song or the music played there, we really must be the most uptight and least fun fanbase in the NHL. No wonder its as quiet as it is there all the time, no one pays attention to the play and spends all of their time whining about too much cotton eyed joe or not enough *insert obscure metal, hipster or rap song here*

And yes, I realize this also could have gone in the GMG thread.

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[CaptainCrunch]

Well, I believe in the soul, the c@@k, the p@@@y, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Well, I believe in the soul, the c@@k, the p@@@y, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

Bull Durham at it's finest

[Flames89]

Being positive is cool

[CaptainCrunch]

I was trying to come up with my own involving hockey and canadian culture but it came accross as self-indulgent overrated crap.

So I stole the original

[blankall]

Originally Posted by troutman

Sofia Vergara is a shrill harpy, and therefore unattractive. "Jaaaaay! Jaaaaaay!".

If my future wife looks like that in her 40s after having kids, I'll be a happy happy man. The sad truth is that women who look like that get to act however they want.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by blankall

None of those things disqualify them from being a boy band.

Also, the Beatles did not come togehter entirely organically (cough cough Ringo). Their music was not entirely their own creations either. They worked with many of the best producers, studio muscians, writers, etc of their time.

Seriously? Them doing some cover songs early in their career means their music isn't "entirely their own creations"? And who are these studio musicians and writers they worked with? Are you seriously slagging them for bringing in a string quartet or a horn section on some songs?

I see little difference in the way that the Beatles were formed and the way that N'Sync was formed. N'Sync was formed when Chris Kirkpatrick assembled a group of chidhood friends and approached Lou Pearlman. Lou then tinckered with the lineup. N'Sync also did much of their song writing.

The only real difference you've pointed out is that the Beatles can't dance. And that has more to do with what was in fashion in pop music at the time.

If that's the only difference you see between them you're simply being willfully ignorant to make a point. You don't have to like the Beatles music, but their innovation and their influence is unassailable.