John Frickin Gaudreau!

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

interesting comparison. Haven't watched a ton of Gaudreau, but does he have the wheels (as per your comparison to a guy like kariya)?

No. He doesn't have elite speed. But his dangles, his ability to read the play, and his ability to separate himself from players once he has the puck are all there. St. Louis is another good high watermark for Gaudreau. He won't be quite as good as either of these players, but that's the game he's emulating.

[djsFlames]

Already went through the record book a couple weeks back.

In this "era" of college hockey, he may be the highest producing player, and likely the first to break the 2.00 PPG mark since the 90s (if he can finish strong).

[Calgary4LIfe]

For shame.. Otto gets no mention! 2.42ppg

[Yakbutter]

Can anyone confirm that Gaudreau does not get much power play time? I remember reading a post in here saying that Boston's coach doesn't use him on the PP unless they are down by a goal.

If that's true, Gaudreau is doing really amazing things in College this year. Being close to 2ppg with minimal pp time..

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Yakbutter

Can anyone confirm that Gaudreau does not get much power play time? I remember reading a post in here saying that Boston's coach doesn't use him on the PP unless they are down by a goal.

If that's true, Gaudreau is doing really amazing things in College this year. Being close to 2ppg with minimal pp time..

Can't confirm with a link, but that is what has been posted here. PP time is to get the younger guys "puck touches" which began a short lived meme. JG has only really been used in the PP if they really needed a goal

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Yakbutter

Can anyone confirm that Gaudreau does not get much power play time? I remember reading a post in here saying that Boston's coach doesn't use him on the PP unless they are down by a goal.

If that's true, Gaudreau is doing really amazing things in College this year. Being close to 2ppg with minimal pp time..

He gets quite a bit of PP time, and his line is usually the first unit.

For some reason, the PP isn't a big strength for BC. Their PP is only 20.2%. In November and December, they went more than a month without a PP goal. After Christmas, they were clicking a little better, and there was a stretch in January where he had 5 PP points in 4 games, but he hasn't had any in the last 4 games.

Only 9 of his 53 points have come on the PP. If I were to guess, it's likely because so much of their scoring comes on the rush, so setting up in the zone doesn't play to their strength.


It is true that their line doesn't get as much ice time late in a game if BC has a comfortable lead.

[GreenLantern]

So I went over to the USCHO forum and asked the guys who see BC play on a regular basis and they basically say that JG not getting PP time is bull, he is their top offensive player and because of this, is a fixture on the PP.

Edit: Yea what getback said. :P

[BChockeyJunkie]

Totally False:

I've watched Johnny from High School - USHL - Juniors - BC.

Johnny line does not get much PP time.

Coach York has alot of freshman to get ready for a championship run. Even at the start of the season he had the Gaudreau-Arnold-Hayes line split to have these guys play on lines with freshman to help grow players. Throughout the seaon, esp since the G_A_H line was put together, PP time has been giving to other line to help develop confidence in other lines to score. Does this mean G_A_H line never plays PP, absolutly no.

They get pp time if :

Losing or tied late in a game.
Their line is due up anyway
Or 4 on 4 (not really pp)

I would imagine with Trophy Time coming up, you will see a major pump in that lines PP time. You have to think, York's team is good enough to make the tourney without having G_A_H line in the PP, so why not use the first 60% of the season to help get point in other kids pockets. He's stated one of his major concerns on the season (in regards to win a championship) is young def n goalie (which now is solid) and relying on 1 line to do all the scoring.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by BChockeyJunkie

Totally False:

I've watched Johnny from High School - USHL - Juniors - BC.

Johnny line does not get much PP time.

Coach York has alot of freshman to get ready for a championship run. Even at the start of the season he had the Gaudreau-Arnold-Hayes line split to have these guys play on lines with freshman to help grow players. Throughout the seaon, esp since the G_A_H line was put together, PP time has been giving to other line to help develop confidence in other lines to score. Does this mean G_A_H line never plays PP, absolutly no.

They get pp time if :

Losing or tied late in a game.
Their line is due up anyway
Or 4 on 4 (not really pp)

I would imagine with Trophy Time coming up, you will see a major pump in that lines PP time. You have to think, York's team is good enough to make the tourney without having G_A_H line in the PP, so why not use the first 60% of the season to help get point in other kids pockets. He's stated one of his major concerns on the season (in regards to win a championship) is long def n goalie (which now is solid) and relying on 1 line to do all the scoring.

So you're saying we're about to see something reeeeeeeally special?

[GreenLantern]

Hrmm interesting. I essentially have two different parties that regularly watch BC play telling me exact opposite things.

Regardless, it doesn't really matter I don't think.. whether he gets PP time or not he has incredible stats. It only makes sense that a coach sits more top players when they are up by 5 goals. However, the team wouldn't be up by 5 goals if it wasn't for those top players.

So in actuality it kind of seems to cancel itself out. Would JG have more points if he played more PP time? Yes.

Would he play more PP time if his team wasn't winning by so many goals and he didn't have so many points already? Yes.

So some people are saying what would happen if he played every game like it was a 1 goal game, then yes his PPG total would be higher. But in what reality or league does any team play their best player when they are up by that many goals?

Even Sid would sit if the Pens were up by 8. I think the real conclusion to the argument is that JG is head and shoulders above those around him and we won't get an accurate perception of his abilities until we can compare him to people of equal or higher skill level in a higher league in the spring (AHL and/or NHL).

[BChockeyJunkie]

here's a question to answer your question. Wouldnt a guy that avg 2.0ppg have more than 9 pp points on the season if his line(the highest scoring line in college) was the yearly Power play feature. the first half the season he basically played more killing time than power play time

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by BChockeyJunkie

here's a question to answer your question. Wouldnt a guy that avg 2.0ppg have more than 9 pp points on the season if his line(the highest scoring line in college) was the yearly Power play feature. the first half the season he basically played more killing time than power play time

At the beginning of the year Johnny wasn't getting PP time. But around Christmas coach York switched up the lines, and for a little over a month now, Johnny has been getting 1st unit PP time.

So that's the little mystery solved. The announcers mention the personnel shuffle almost every time BC hits the PP.

[BChockeyJunkie]

yea dont get me wrong, to say that they dont get alot of PP time is not meaning that dont get time. Im just stating that they werent used as a traditional 1st line PP. meaning they arent out there as much as possible. There is never a sense of urgency to get that line max PP time.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I'd be ecstatic if Johnny got a .5 PPG his first season in the NHL. But that's pretty high expectations for a first year. Monahan has managed to do it thus far (almost, 24 in 50 games). I think Johnny could pull it off. But with his size, no doubt he will have to adapt to the NHL level.

Being off topic, Cammy needs to be traded so JG can keep his number!

[jg13]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I'd be ecstatic if Johnny got a .5 PPG his first season in the NHL. But that's pretty high expectations for a first year. Monahan has managed to do it thus far (almost, 24 in 50 games). I think Johnny could pull it off. But with his size, no doubt he will have to adapt to the NHL level.

Being off topic, Cammy needs to be traded so JG can keep his number!

Waiting for this to happen so I can buy a jersey

[getbak]

Make it 23 in a row.


Gaudreau set up Bill Arnold for an easy tap-in short-handed goal less than 2 minutes into their game tonight.

[BChockeyJunkie]

make it 2!!!!!!! looks like tonights game might get him back up to 2.0ppg...

[dammage79]

This kid is raising the bar too high! Ahhhh He needs to sign right frickin' now!

[thymebalm]

Since Christmas:
Gaudreau - Arnold - Hayes - Top PP Unit
Gilmour - Cangelosi - Fitzgerald - 2nd PP Unit

Source: The game that's on right now.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Since Christmas:
Gaudreau - Arnold - Hayes - Top PP Unit
Gilmour - Cangelosi - Fitzgerald - 2nd PP Unit

Source: The game that's on right now.

Yup, and splitting time about 50/50 tonight (the "second" unit scored early in their first PP, so the GAH! line didn't get on the ice for that one).

Both units have scored tonight, so Johnny's 10th PP point of the season.


"Third" unit getting time now that they're up 5-0 with 5 minutes left...and they score too.