hmmm, this seems like maybe it should be a new thread for those grievances. I was not alive in '39, I doubt you were either.
Russian invaded Ukraine, it's been going on for years now. As a Canadian, I get along with all of the races you mentioned, because I judge people on their merits and they do not judge me on things from 100 years ago.
Just another RT troll who can't keep on topic
Pardon what? I'm British and I'm talking about the murderous things my ancestors did over the last 200 years, tens of millions of people killed for the British Empire, right up into the 1950's.
The point is Germany and Japan are no more or less likely to invade China or Poland than the UK is likely to invade India or Canada
I would be more concerned about the re-arming of Japan. The far right conservatives in Japan have continued to hold power there and Japan has consistently down played their atrocities all over Asia in WW2. Compare that to Germany and how they handle WW2.
I get why Japan playing dumb about the atrocities of WW2 pisses people off, but I wouldn't worry about them re-arming.
Japanese society was utterly defeated 80 years ago and stand as a good example of why sometimes a society needs to be defeated in order to instill change. They abandoned their civilizational nationalism policies and adopted the liberal international order, and I don't see any signs that they have strayed from that. The same thing with Germany.
On the other hand, Russia, China, most of the Islamic world, and especially Iran, still use civilizational nationalism as a de facto policy. They oppose self-determination of people they see as falling within "their civilization". As far as Japan goes, they haven't seemed too into that over the past 80 years. The funny thing is that if the Russian and Chinese ideology of civilizational nationalism wins over the global market ideology of the West, it would only be a matter of time until those two civilizations clashed, and I think they know that.
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Pardon what? I'm British and I'm talking about the murderous things my ancestors did over the last 200 years, tens of millions of people killed for the British Empire, right up into the 1950's.
The point is Germany and Japan are no more or less likely to invade China or Poland than the UK is likely to invade India or Canada
I understand that, but it has nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia, at this time(without going way back).
Can you please let me know how many tonnes of grain and food have been destroyed in the past 5 years, for Ukrainians, and all of the other countries that need it? Do you think it has surpassed your number? If it has, why not post about that, so people see who is affected and how many tonnes more it is then in '39?
I am willing to bet it is higher in the past 5 years and like Japan in this thread(like WTF) has nothing to do with anything other then what RT, telegram and twitter say. Do better. But hey, lets look at the numbers since you took the time to post in the Ukraine thread.
I don't mean offense, I just see trends of posts from various sites. Yours in particular showed me that you have no idea but you talk about 1939.
Consider it an education exercise, tell the thread, how many tonnes of grain, at ports(this doesn't include what Ukrainians need themselves) have they lost because the port was bombed or the ship was sunk by Russia? You have the 1939 numbers, how about 2018 to 2023? Then your post will be relevant and educational.
I understand that, but it has nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia, at this time(without going way back).
Can you please let me know how many tonnes of grain and food have been destroyed in the past 5 years, for Ukrainians, and all of the other countries that need it? Do you think it has surpassed your number? If it has, why not post about that, so people see who is affected and how many tonnes more it is then in '39?
I am willing to bet it is higher in the past 5 years and like Japan in this thread(like WTF) has nothing to do with anything other then what RT, telegram and twitter say. Do better. But hey, lets look at the numbers since you took the time to post in the Ukraine thread.
I don't mean offense, I just see trends of posts from various sites. Yours in particular showed me that you have no idea but you talk about 1939.
Consider it an education exercise, tell the thread, how many tonnes of grain, at ports(this doesn't include what Ukrainians need themselves) have they lost because the port was bombed or the ship was sunk by Russia? You have the 1939 numbers, how about 2018 to 2023? Then your post will be relevant and educational.
my post answered to my best belief a specific question about whether we should worry about Germany and Japan rearming, nothing more or less, it had nothing to do with Ukraine
my post answered to my best belief a specific question about whether we should worry about Germany and Japan rearming, nothing more or less, it had nothing to do with Ukraine
Weird, I am not sure if you noticed but this thread is about Ukraine. Why post then? Did you even bother to look up how many tonnes of grain have been lost because of Russia and the past 5 years?
Did it beat your number?
Or are you just spamming threads with Russian and Twitter propaganda about 1939, completely off topic? Like seriously, if you weren't posting about Ukraine why post in this thread about 1939. British or not that is trolling, off topic.
Russia has sunk and blew up way more grain then whatever the hell you were talking about from so called guilt from 1939. AFC you have been here a long time, like myself, but you posting Russian propaganda in this thread, while admitting, it had nothing to do with Ukraine and this thread, says maybe you were hacked. Why, when it has nothing to do with Ukraine? Just re-posting RT for no reason?
The forum has thread titles, read them before posting. Then maybe we wont get your 1939 story whining, while russia sinks ships filled with grain and bombs ports weekly where grain is stored, that would be sent to countries in need.
So kindly, STFU in this thread with your 1939 BS while millions are losing food because Russia is blowing it up, please keep things on topic To anyone, you can see it is just another RT poster trying to blame others.
Please piss off from this thread if it inst relevant, some people look to this thread for updates, not you whining or reposting RT then saying it has nothing to do with Ukraine.
This includes me too, having to ask wtf these recent posts have to do with Ukraine, people are going to see this bumped and think Cheese gave an update instead it's just japan, 1939 and my posts.
But hey, if you give me the number in tonnes Russia has sank or burned, I will say sorry, maybe you just didn't know.
I was answering Locke and Activestick's posts and you aint the thread police so if you dont want to be involved in some part of a discussion stay out of it, a question was asked and I answered, it has nothing to do with you
I was answering Locke and Activestick's posts and you aint the thread police so if you dont want to be involved in some part of a discussion stay out of it, a question was asked and I answered, it has nothing to do with you
Again, read the thread topic. I definitely am not the thread police, I responded to you whining about 1930 that you admitted had nothing to do with Ukraine.
Those other posters didn't mention 1939 or grain you tool why bring them into you mentioning 1939? Stop blaming others lol. Japan sure, Germany sure, you were the only slow, so called guilt feeling person, who brought up 1939 and your fake guilt. wow
Care to try to stay on topic and how many tonnes of grain Russia has bombed and taken from those in need?
You whined about food from 1939, but you don't care how much Ukraine loses or the other countries who are starving because of Russia.
I wouldn't even have posted if you didn't try to blame others for the food shortage, going back to 1930, like you were alive lol. You still haven't acknowledged how many tonnes more Russian has taken away from the world. Someone has to show that posters like you are full of #### and just don't want Ukraine to win nor do they actually care about people. And the guilt you said you had sure went away quickly didn't it, you don't care who starves, but you're a good boy, good internet illiterate, thread title illiterate, fake caring about feeding the world, lying boy
I think we are done here, have a good night. Japan, 1939 and this whiner have nothing to do with this topic, just deflection while millions starve because Russian bombs ports and sinks ships meant for those who need.
Again, read the thread topic. I definitely am not the thread police, I responded to you whining about 1930 that you admitted had nothing to do with Ukraine.
Those other posters didn't mention 1939 or grain you tool why bring them into you mentioning 1939? Stop blaming others lol. Japan sure, Germany sure, you were the only slow, so called guilt feeling person, who brought up 1939 and your fake guilt. wow
Care to try to stay on topic and how many tonnes of grain Russia has bombed and taken from those in need?
You whined about food from 1939, but you don't care how much Ukraine loses or the other countries who are starving because of Russia.
I wouldn't even have posted if you didn't try to blame others for the food shortage, going back to 1930, like you were alive lol. You still haven't acknowledged how many tonnes more Russian has taken away from the world. Someone has to show that posters like you are full of #### and just don't want Ukraine to win nor do they actually care about people. And the guilt you said you had sure went away quickly didn't it, you don't care who starves, but you're a good boy, good internet illiterate, thread title illiterate, fake caring about feeding the world, lying boy
I think we are done here, have a good night. Japan, 1939 and this whiner have nothing to do with this topic, just deflection while millions starve because Russian bombs ports and sinks ships meant for those who need.
what claptrap are you on about? in 1942 the crop failed in the Punjab, but Churchill chose to ship rice from the grain stores to Egypt for the war effort, the subsequent famine killed 2 to 3 million Indians, that's a matter of record, do you even know what I'm talking about? my point is that Germany and Japan weren't the only countries doing shady racist stuff 70 years ago
what claptrap are you on about? in 1942 the crop failed in the Punjab, but Churchill chose to ship rice from the grain stores to Egypt for the war effort, the subsequent famine killed 2 to 3 million Indians, that's a matter of record, do you even know what I'm talking about? my point is that Germany and Japan weren't the only countries doing shady racist stuff 70 years ago
Ok, real slow like for you.
You said your post had nothing to do with Ukraine, so why post your fake personal guilt about the west and 1939.
Now be a big boy and google how much food, corn, grain, etc does Ukraine send Egypt per year? So your fake outrage that was from 1939 is just rt bs.
Stay with me, now actually look up how much food and goods Russia sank or burned destined for Egypt. You whine and troll about 1939 but Ukraine is helping people not starve today, in Egypt, you asshat
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You said your post had nothing to do with Ukraine, so why post your fake personal guilt about the west and 1939.
Now be a big boy and google how much food, corn, grain, etc does Ukraine send Egypt per year? So your fake outrage that was from 1939 is just rt bs.
Stay with me, now actually look up how much food and goods Russia sank or burned destined for Egypt. You whine and troll about 1939 but Ukraine is helping people not starve today, in Egypt, you asshat
No one is disagreeing with you. Are you concerned with the rearming of Japan and Germany to support the war? If not you aren’t disagreeing with anyone either.
Um. How concerned are we about the re-arming of Germany? Especially in light of potential Political changes? Ukraine's two biggest allies, the US and Germany could potentially flip and I understand that Germany approved a bill to spend a significant amount of money for new arms.
You said your post had nothing to do with Ukraine, so why post your fake personal guilt about the west and 1939.
Now be a big boy and google how much food, corn, grain, etc does Ukraine send Egypt per year? So your fake outrage that was from 1939 is just rt bs.
Stay with me, now actually look up how much food and goods Russia sank or burned destined for Egypt. You whine and troll about 1939 but Ukraine is helping people not starve today, in Egypt, you asshat
Give it a rest bud. AFC Wimbledon is not a russia sympathizer and never has been. He knows damn well what Russia is doing and the extent of the impact that is having on food exports from Ukraine.
Locke asked a question about Germany - and AFC stated that just because German society committed atrocities 80 years ago, doesn't mean they will do it now. He then made a comparison saying the UK isn't likely to invade India or Egypt even though British society was very racist and committed atrocities in the same time frame as Germany, and in fact, for a much longer period. I agree with all of AFC's points.
The fact is, and I stated it in my above post, Europe needs a militarily strong Germany. And for that matter, a strong Italy, France, UK, Spain and all democratic nations of Europe.
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The concerning part would be if Germany WASN'T arming itself to counter the threat of Russia, China, Iran, etc.
Germany is an ally and has been committed to democracy and peace since the third Reich crumbled away.
All the hurr durr the nazis are arming themselves again trope is just nonsense. Europe and the entire free world need a strong Germany.
My point was sort of...do you or anyone else want Germany to be biggest Economic and Military power in Europe? While at the same time an extremist party is gaining traction and gunning for power.
Because we've seen this movie before.
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My point was sort of...do you or anyone else want Germany to be biggest Economic and Military power in Europe? While at the same time an extremist party is gaining traction and gunning for power.
Because we've seen this movie before.
Short answer, yes. Germany should and needs to be the economic and military power of Europe.
AfD is not a fringe party anymore; obviously they are gaining ground. But they are xenophobic and anti-immigrant. I don't foresee them ever becoming the majority, but certainly they will join in a coalition government at some point in the future. What I think that means for Germany is much tighter immigration controls and rhetoric about integration.
There's zero chance an AfD government sends the troops abroad to retake Kaliningrad or something or sets up labor camps for Untermensch undesirables. Besides, Germany's constitution is written so that they can't lay claim to anything outside of 1990 borders.
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Your grandpa's old Polish jokes no longer apply. GROM and other units are way more advanced and they sure don't want to be under anyone's thumb again, and they know it is coming. Never will they become part of Russia again. Never.
You don't think future Germany needs them as a partner both in terms of labor supply and market for their manufactured goods? Hence the need to arm up and be able to aid in protecting those territories.
You are a pretentious ass that can buzz off. Nice of you to assume my Ukranian grandfather's made Polish jokes all the time...get bent and I'm happy to take an infraction for this.
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If Russia wins and is allowed to annex territory by force, then you might see other countries revert back to pre-WW2 conquest ideologies of annexing territory by force. If you want to avoid having an aggressive Germany (or France, Britain, Italy, Japan, etc...), then you need to stop Russia in their tracks now. Shifting the world order back 100 years, probably does mean the world would be a more aggressive place in general. I am not saying that it is likely any of those countries revert back, but it probably becomes greater than zero if the liberal international order of not annexing countries isn't respected.
If someone really is worried about Japan or Germany re-arming, you should be more concerned about what is making that happen. Look at which countries are currently annexing territory and expanding their borders. If Russia wasn't invading Ukraine, and if China wasn't expanding in the South China Sea and threatening Taiwan, we're probably not even talking about Germany or Japan re-arming.
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You don't think future Germany needs them as a partner both in terms of labor supply and market for their manufactured goods? Hence the need to arm up and be able to aid in protecting those territories.
You are a pretentious ass that can buzz off. Nice of you to assume my Ukranian grandfather's made Polish jokes all the time...get bent and I'm happy to take an infraction for this.
? Just re-posting RT for no reason?
instead it's just japan, 1939 and my posts. 
