Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Polarizing topic in Alberta.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1691801985799127380

Polarizing topic in Alberta: Should I unhide Yoho's post and click the twitter link or should I keep scrolling.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Oh totally agree. Yes it is on everything, not just pipelines. Canada has a massive problem IMO. Nobody can or wants to build anything. That is a huge, huge issue. The country and prevailing attitude is very anti-development, and an abandonment and severe under appreciation to what has enabled Canada to become what it is today. But yeah, pipelines in particular are not getting constructed.

I think you’re right the industry is pretty whiny, entitled and they feel targeted. but personally I understand where the sentiment comes from. I understand why not everyone shares that view too.

Don’t kid yourselves that this is a purely made in Canada problem. Just look what Enbridge had to do to simply replace Line 3 in the US. The era of long inter jurisdiction pipelines is likely over, North America is about plumbed up. Environmental advocates have rightly figured out that pipelines are easier fo fight than anything else, and have been successful doing so.

As for Gateway, even with Harpers conditions it probably would’ve gotten built but Trudeaus actions on the tanker moratorium were the nail. As for Energy East I think it was always dead. The length of new line required was longer though than Gateway, and most of it in Quebec. There was no huge market out east. TC knew it was a bad project and tried to use it as leverage in Keystone, which failed miserably.

The producers were likely never going to match production to fill all those pipes, they just loved the idea of massive offtake capacity but the Enbridge mainline would’ve seen tough days if all those got built

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Izzle

Or when media asks PP why there isn't even a single pro-choice conservative MP?

There’s at least one pro-choice MP who’s too chicken to speak up.

[Faust]

Andrew Friesen

Per the CPI report these are the electricity $ hikes by prov comparing July with 1 yr earlier

NL 6%
NS 4%
PE 5%
NB 5%
QC 3%
ON 3%
MB 0%
SK 12%
AB 128% ��
BC 2%
YT 6%
NW 5%

Tried a graph it but scale of AB hike so out of proportion that you can’t see the rest. #abpoli #ableg

https://twitter.com/friesen_f/status...614168852?s=21

[Faust]

DKGray

This is Alberta’s idea of an efficient electricity market.

Efficiently lifting $2 billion and change every month from all ratepayers, big and small.

I’m getting tired of saying I told you so.

Just take it as a given.

https://twitter.com/therealdkgray/st...296599888?s=21

[Faust]

Albertans paying double what they should for electricity?

https://youtu.be/nejUnWOE5uA

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Faust

Albertans paying double what they should for electricity?

https://youtu.be/nejUnWOE5uA

Can't even begin to imagine the socialist dystopia the NDP would have brought with their rate caps and consumer protections.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

There’s at least one pro-choice MP who’s too chicken to speak up.

In some ways this is worse. The moderate(s) is afraid of the radical.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Can't even begin to imagine the socialist dystopia the NDP would have brought with their rate caps and consumer protections.

Conservative supporters are currently busy trying to figure out how to blame this on the NDP anyway, and should that fail, Trudeau.

After all, they spend so much time pretending to care about poor people whenever they want to complain about taxes that they can’t possibly avoid criticizing someone for this, right? And it’s certainly not going to be mommy Smith or the UCP.

[Ozy_Flame]

Let's get that electricity hike replay, but this time with red line visuals!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1691926859762811274

[Yoho]

“Canadians continue to be ‘Alberta bound’ by the tens of thousands”
https://globalnews.ca/news/9898673/a...ousing-prices/

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Yoho

“Canadians continue to be ‘Alberta bound’ by the tens of thousands”
https://globalnews.ca/news/9898673/a...ousing-prices/

Chasing cheaper land and real estate, you might be surprised to find that they shift the voting demographics. Not in a way you might be fond of.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Chasing cheaper land and real estate, you might be surprised to find that they shift the voting demographics. Not in a way you might be fond of.

Or they are coming for the as advertised home cooking.

Highly doubtful people move 4000km because they have rave reviews of the party policies and place they left.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Chasing cheaper land and real estate, you might be surprised to find that they shift the voting demographics. Not in a way you might be fond of.

My new neighbor moved here from Ontario. She hates Trudeau with a passion and will vote Conservative in the next election.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Dion

My new neighbor moved here from Ontario. She hates Trudeau with a passion and will vote Conservative in the next election.

So she moved to a riding that there is a 99% was gonna go that way anyways? Sounds like you’ve got a real troublemaker next door Dion

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Or they are coming for the as advertised home cooking.

Highly doubtful people move 4000km because they have rave reviews of the party policies and place they left.

Well the article you posted literally stated it was because of the cost of real estate.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Well the article you posted literally stated it was because of the cost of real estate.

Yoho keeps saying people from Ontario 'flee' here to escape their crazy left wing politics, completely ignoring not only his own sources, but also the fact that Ontario has had a Conservative Government for over 5 years

[Ozy_Flame]

People are leaving Ontario because of house prices at the moment. It's that simple. There are tons of jobs and Doug Ford, for as much of a moist gorilla as he is, is running roughshod with conservative politics with little to no resistance.

I have found Alberta attracts the "don't tread on me" folks from across the country, and have done so for a while. There are some migrated Ontarians that fit the stereotypical Albertan far more than I do, and I was born and raised in Calgary!

[Dion]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

So she moved to a riding that there is a 99% was gonna go that way anyways? Sounds like you’ve got a real troublemaker next door Dion

Well, she does like the UCP and Danielle Smith.

She also moved here for the climate and to escape the humidity in Ontario. Plus she was able to sell her home and buy one here and have extra money in the bank. In fact all the new moves on my street are either from BC or Ontario, coming with cash in their hands.

[Ozy_Flame]

The humidity thing is hilarious. It's got maybe 2-3 weeks of solid humidity with heat, the rest is completely normal and tolerable. I've been in TO for about a year and a half now and am still waiting for this oppressive humidity to kick in.

Even when it's humid and hot, it's nowhere near what you get in places like Thailand or Singapore. That's real humid heat.