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Old 04-08-2023, 03:51 PM   #14221
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Huberdeau said that Montreal was a tough city for French-Canadians
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Old 04-08-2023, 03:56 PM   #14222
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Old 04-08-2023, 06:59 PM   #14223
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on HNIC Friedman says that Flyers 1st round pick in the 2018 draft Jay O'Brien will not sign allowing him to take advantage of the NCAA " loophole" and become a free agent

Flyers will get the 51st OA pick as compensation.

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https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...15/jay-o-brien

O'Brien did a faceplant in the NCAA after getting drafted but his production is now at respectable levels.

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Old 04-08-2023, 07:03 PM   #14224
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on HNIC Friedman says that Flyers 1st round pick in the 2018 draft Jay O'Brien will not sign allowing him to take advantage of the NCAA "loophole" and become a free agent in June.

Flyers will get the 51st OA pick as compensation.

Stats for O'Brien:
https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...15/jay-o-brien
Funny - he’s a Mass kid, played Boston U but for some reason played a season in Penticton. Maybe he likes western Canada.
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Old 04-08-2023, 07:03 PM   #14225
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Old 04-08-2023, 07:04 PM   #14226
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on HNIC Friedman says that Flyers 1st round pick in the 2018 draft Jay O'Brien will not sign allowing him to take advantage of the NCAA "loophole" and become a free agent in June.

Flyers will get the 51st OA pick as compensation.

Stats for O'Brien:
https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe...15/jay-o-brien
Is it a case of him not wanting to sign with the Flayers, or a case of the Flyers thinking the 51st OA is worth more at this point?
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Old 04-08-2023, 07:06 PM   #14227
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Is it a case of him not wanting to sign with the Flayers, or a case of the Flyers thinking the 51st OA is worth more at this point?
They didn’t expressly say - made it sound mutual. But it looks like Flyers cut him loose to me.
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Funny - he’s a Mass kid, played Boston U but for some reason played a season in Penticton. Maybe he likes western Canada.
He played in BCHL because he really struggled in Providence and wanted to transfer to BU. It was a way to keep playing and keep his NCAA status.
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I think Friedman might have misspoke saying the Flyers will get a compensatory pick in this draft.

Looks like his draft rights expire in August 15 so they will get a draft pick in the 2024 draft.
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He played in BCHL because he really struggled in Providence and wanted to transfer to BU. It was a way to keep playing and keep his NCAA status.
Seems like a good move given he did well there and now is close to PPG back in the NCAA.
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Old 04-09-2023, 03:59 AM   #14231
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I would NEVER draft a high school prep player with a first-rounder. That said, this kid is said to have high-end speed, good work ethic, and a well-rounded 200-ft game. Plays with a bit of a chip on his shoulder, too. Kinda middling stats for a 23 yo NHL draftee, though. Maybe he would make a good bottom-6 player in the NHL....

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Old 04-09-2023, 05:11 PM   #14232
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I would NEVER draft a high school prep player with a first-rounder. That said, this kid is said to have high-end speed, good work ethic, and a well-rounded 200-ft game. Plays with a bit of a chip on his shoulder, too. Kinda middling stats for a 23 yo NHL draftee, though. Maybe he would make a good bottom-6 player in the NHL....
Jeremy Roenick was drafted out of US high school.

As was his high school line mate Tony Amonte.
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Both drafted by Chicago, who were absolutely bucking trend. Unbelievable how well that worked out.
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Yeah, I don’t think the High School circuit is as viable today as it was back then. The USDP is a very good junior league these days for American kids.
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Jeremy Roenick was drafted out of US high school.

As was his high school line mate Tony Amonte.
Amonte wasn’t first round though. The fact you had to go back to 88 to find a really good example isn’t really a winning point.

Now there are some more recent examples: Hayes, Bjugstad, Nelson, come to mind.
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Amonte wasn’t first round though. The fact you had to go back to 88 to find a really good example isn’t really a winning point.

Now there are some more recent examples: Hayes, Bjugstad, Nelson, come to mind.
Wierd, all 3 of those guys were drafted in 2010. I didn't remember that. I still think the USDP is where you look for American kids these days in the first round.
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Old 04-09-2023, 11:27 PM   #14237
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Wierd, all 3 of those guys were drafted in 2010. I didn't remember that. I still think the USDP is where you look for American kids these days in the first round.
Yeah it is basically an all star team of kids that have gone through these elite programs. You'd have to be a late bloomer or find a parent who objected to sending their kid away to Michigan for hockey at 16 or 17. There are only 30 or so kids in the USDP so you certainly could find some exceptions each year.
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Is it a case of him not wanting to sign with the Flayers, or a case of the Flyers thinking the 51st OA is worth more at this point?
Torts probably
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Yeah it is basically an all star team of kids that have gone through these elite programs. You'd have to be a late bloomer or find a parent who objected to sending their kid away to Michigan for hockey at 16 or 17. There are only 30 or so kids in the USDP so you certainly could find some exceptions each year.
To a lesser degree, I would put the USHL in the same category, which is of course, a much larger pool of talent than just the USDP on it’s own.
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Both drafted by Chicago, who were absolutely bucking trend. Unbelievable how well that worked out.
Amonte by the rangers.
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