The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[The Fonz]

Elon Schneebly

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593895352083812352

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593895352083812352

How many times were you able to vote?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

How many times were you able to vote?

Musk has banned bots from Twitter, so that cut Yoho out.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Could you imagine if it were that easy to get rid of staff?

“They didn’t reply back agreeing that they’d be “hardcore” from now on”

What he did was potentially legal. He offered a new employment contract or severance. Provided the new terms of service are within employment laws and the severance offered met the legal standards that is exactly how you would get your employees to agree to be hardcore.

Your employer can decide to drastically change your terms of employment. At some point those changes become constructive dismissal and they would have to pay out severance if you refuse.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593895352083812352

Free speech doesn’t work like that,

[Azure]

And obviously bots controlling the poll.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Like I said, there are tradeoffs to this model. That doesn't sound like all that bad a trade off. I'm sure you could automate downloading your profile, should that be a big concern. I think for most people it wouldn't be the end of the world to lose that picture of lunch from 6 years ago.

People may not regret losing their picture of lunch from six years ago, but would be pretty unhappy to lose all of their followers and the people they follow.

Also, this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593934653114785793

I obviously can't verify that this is real, but it is totally possible in this model of setting up your account on some randos server.

[Fuzz]

Like I said, tradeoffs. Finding a server that suits you will be important.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593895352083812352

How many times did you orgasm when you saw this Tweet?

Myself, it was about 5 times. Man I love Trump! Can't wait!

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Like I said, tradeoffs. Finding a server that suits you will be important.

Which is why it will never be more than a niche service

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Which is why it will never be more than a niche service

I don't see that as being inevitable. For instance, someone could setup a paid server with guaranteed service, their own TOS(lay out the rules for banning, suspension), performance metrics, etc. We see the federal government providing financial support to media companies, they could support a news only server where only accredited journalists can post. Maybe CalgaryPuck(an example, any community would do) sets up paid instance, or runs their own ad service on it to fund it.

I think a lot of how Mastodon works that people see as a bug is actually a feature.

[Winsor_Pilates]

I think Twitter becomes a niche service after all this anyway.
Trump gets back on and it becomes an alt right echo chamber for Trump, Elon, JP and their followers.

Elon will turn it into the exact opposite of what he had claimed he wanted it to be.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by octothorp

It just occurred to me that I don't actually know what Musk's voice sounds like, and I've been reading his tweets in the voice of that 80s guy from Futurama.

He stutters a little bit. Has a soft tone and doesn't project the typical confident tone when he speaks that most people in his position do.

[Patek23]

I predict nothing much changes. Were watching an internal cleanining house happen rather publicly due to it being the most prominent online social forum and occuring on said forum. Give it a few weeks and I'd imagine things die down and it goes back to business as usual.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

I predict nothing much changes. Were watching an internal cleanining house happen rather publicly due to it being the most prominent online social forum and occuring on said forum. Give it a few weeks and I'd imagine things die down and it goes back to business as usual.

There is no company on earth in any field, especially engineering or something equally technical, that can lose 75% of its staff and carry on with business as usual, Twitter may survive but the next 2 years as they desperately try to replace the staff are going to be a chaotic clown show of service interruptions and stuff that no longer works, or works intermittently.

Replacing 75% of your workforce as fast as possible means a couple of things, first you dont have managers to do the interviews, 75% means you have no management level staff left, the 25% left are mostly visa guys that cant quit or they have to go back to India.

So most of the 75% will be hired on resumes alone, oh some guy from Telsa will be brought in to do a zoom interview but he has no idea what questions to ask and he has to hire 500 guys this week so he isnt doing anything in the way of due diligence, right now every team leader with some rubbish staff member is encouraging them to apply at Twitter as he will give them a great reference, Google, Amazon Meta are all licking their chops at the ability to swap out their no hope staff members for fresh newly laid off twitter guys.

This means that a fair chunk of the 75% they hire will be utter rubbish that they will have to filter out and replace over the next 6 months to 2 years, Twitter will be one huge rolling cluster#### of a company while this ongoing process happens, it will take them years to get back to the position they were a month ago, all the while losing money hand over fist.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

There is no company on earth in any field, especially engineering or something equally technical, that can lose 75% of its staff and carry on with business as usual, Twitter may survive but the next 2 years as they desperately try to replace the staff are going to be a chaotic clown show of service interruptions and stuff that no longer works, or works intermittently.

Replacing 75% of your workforce as fast as possible means a couple of things, first you dont have managers to do the interviews, 75% means you have no management level staff left, the 25% left are mostly visa guys that cant quit or they have to go back to India.

So most of the 75% will be hired on resumes alone, oh some guy from Telsa will be brought in to do a zoom interview but he has no idea what questions to ask and he has to hire 500 guys this week so he isnt doing anything in the way of due diligence, right now every team leader with some rubbish staff member is encouraging them to apply at Twitter as he will give them a great reference, Google, Amazon Meta are all licking their chops at the ability to swap out their no hope staff members for fresh newly laid off twitter guys.

This means that a fair chunk of the 75% they hire will be utter rubbish that they will have to filter out and replace over the next 6 months to 2 years, Twitter will be one huge rolling cluster#### of a company while this ongoing process happens, it will take them years to get back to the position they were a month ago, all the while losing money hand over fist.

But are they going to replace that 75 percent? Or try to work with a leaner model? Not saying that will work, but I don't think they want to replace everyone that was gone. If they wanted to keep the same amount of employees, they wouldn't be pushing them out the door so quickly, I would think.

[opendoor]

I don't think the plan is to replace most of the 75% though. Musk probably sees something like Reddit, which has about 90% fewer employees with a similar number of users as Twitter when he bought it, and thinks that Twitter is bloated.

He's probably right to some extent, but his methods aren't going to get rid of the least talented employees. He's going to chase out the people with the most options who aren't interested in being "hardcore" where they have to double their workload for the same salary.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by opendoor

I don't think the plan is to replace most of the 75% though. Musk probably sees something like Reddit, which has about 90% fewer employees with a similar number of users as Twitter when he bought it, and thinks that Twitter is bloated.

He's probably right to some extent, but his methods aren't going to get rid of the least talented employees. He's going to chase out the people with the most options who aren't interested in being "hardcore" where they have to double their workload for the same salary.

I'm not sure I would model the company I paid 44 billion for on a company that is essentially a non profit organization that's absolute best year of income, not profit, it has never made a profit, but income amounts to 1/6th of Twitters.

[afc wimbledon]

Here's the other thing, unless you are assuming that the offices of Twitter are crammed full of masseurs and avocado slice consultants, that Twitter has trebled its staff with useless nonfunctioning personnel for some reason that have nothing to do with keeping the site functioning, selling advertising and keeping things legal etc but it seems unlikely, in any company you may carry a bit of dead weight but 90% of the staff are going to be essential, Twitter only has 7000 staff, it's not a vast number for a company that operates across the world