Justin Trudeau says marijuana should be legalized

[jammies]

Why not at Mac's or other convenience stores, so I don't have to make another stop to grab munchies? Have they done any market research AT ALL?!?!

[Top Shelf]

Overall, not a bad first draft of a framework. It's been proven many times that government run retail stores are a bad idea.

I hope they rethink the growing outdoors idea. It doesn't make any sense to not let a plant go outdoors, plus it is really the most cost effective way for people to grow

[Senator Clay Davis]

Hopefully Amsterdam style cafes will be allowed. If there's been one disappointment about legal weed in Murica it's been the lack of that.

[corporatejay]

This is great but let's not kid ourselves, with a NDP government you always knew government stores would be on the table. It might just be lip service to their union base.


This isn't meant to be pejorative, we all know if it was the conservatives in power there would zero discussion of government stores.

[Ducay]

Why WOULDN'T it be sold through liquor stores? Isn't that a ready made solution? ID checks, gov't regulation, distance from schools, infrastructure already built in?

Sure, restricting away from pharmacies make sense (don't want to add recreational to a medical store, I get that), but this seems like a recipe for disaster with crappy off-brand mom&pop dispensaries.

I want Air Miles and I want selection, can we not just let the big guys in from the damned start?

Also call me old, but 18 seems a bit young, but again, makes sense to have a unified age if YOURE SELLING IT AT A LIQUOR STORE GOD DA MN IT.


NDP screwing things up, as is to be expected

[Top Shelf]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Why WOULDN'T it be sold through liquor stores? Isn't that a ready made solution? ID checks, gov't regulation, distance from schools, infrastructure already built in?

Sure, restricting away from pharmacies make sense (don't want to add recreational to a medical store, I get that), but this seems like a recipe for disaster with crappy off-brand mom&pop dispensaries.

I want Air Miles and I want selection, can we not just let the big guys in from the damned start?

Also call me old, but 18 seems a bit young, but again, makes sense to have a unified age if YOURE SELLING IT AT A LIQUOR STORE GOD DA MN IT.


NDP screwing things up, as is to be expected

The Federal Task Force recommended that weed not be sold at liquor stores. The thought process around this is that it might look like they are condoning consuming the two products together, since they are being sold together. Obviously that is not a great idea, as mixing the two can be pretty bad

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Top Shelf

The Federal Task Force recommended that weed not be sold at liquor stores. The thought process around this is that it might look like they are condoning consuming the two products together, since they are being sold together. Obviously that is not a great idea, as mixing the two can be pretty bad

Or pretty great. Depends on your perspective and tolerance. Some people get the spins if they smoke while drunk. Some don't.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Why WOULDN'T it be sold through liquor stores? Isn't that a ready made solution? ID checks, gov't regulation, distance from schools, infrastructure already built in?

Sure, restricting away from pharmacies make sense (don't want to add recreational to a medical store, I get that), but this seems like a recipe for disaster with crappy off-brand mom&pop dispensaries.

I want Air Miles and I want selection, can we not just let the big guys in from the damned start?

Also call me old, but 18 seems a bit young, but again, makes sense to have a unified age if YOURE SELLING IT AT A LIQUOR STORE GOD DA MN IT.


NDP screwing things up, as is to be expected

I feel like 18 is the age for everything else, so it should be for this.

I don't think driving should be allowed until 18 either though, now that I'm getting a little older.

I think if you can vote/drink/smoke/etc, you should be able to decide everything else to do with your person. A lot of the various research shows you shouldn't use marijuana until you're older (25 IIRC), but I think a 18 year old should be legally allowed to decide that for themselves.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Top Shelf

The Federal Task Force recommended that weed not be sold at liquor stores. The thought process around this is that it might look like they are condoning consuming the two products together, since they are being sold together. Obviously that is not a great idea, as mixing the two can be pretty bad

They sell wine and liquor and beer together, which as we all know, is just as dangerous of a mix when consumed together.

They are selling it wholesale through AGLC as they do liquor, so why double up on distribution and retail costs when you have the infrastructure that is already in place to meet exactly their specifications? All you're doing by adding in a new set of middlemen is increasing prices by effectively doubling retail costs and payroll costs.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Top Shelf

The Federal Task Force recommended that weed not be sold at liquor stores. The thought process around this is that it might look like they are condoning consuming the two products together, since they are being sold together. Obviously that is not a great idea, as mixing the two can be pretty bad

It's kind of a ridiculous premise though. I could see the argument against having pot smoking lounges in a bar. But it would be like saying a grocery store can't sell chips AND chocolate bars, because together they are worse! Because you basically have to smoke it at home, and drink at home, it becomes an inconvenience issue more than anything because you have to go to 2 stores, but you would still do it on the same trip if you needed both. One of those things where the academics provide policy based on something that sounds reasonable at first glance, but the reality of it is illogical. Typical government though.

[Locke]

So whats going to happen? Is Justin Trudeau going to personally man a Kiosk on 8th avenue selling 'Prime (Minister's) Weed?'

You have to admit, the branding basically sells itself.

[JFK]

If you'd old enough to get naked for money, or put your life on the line and join the military you're old enough to buy some damn pot. Would prefer it at the corner stores as well.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by JFK

If you'd old enough to get naked for money, or put your life on the line and join the military you're old enough to buy some damn pot. Would prefer it at the corner stores as well.

I cant wait until they start selling it in ice cream trucks or on skip-the-dishes.

It should be available as an aperitif.

[Lubicon]

The separation from alcohol or pharmaceutical sales seems logical to me. But please for the love of dog do not put these stores in the hands of the government. There's no reason they cannot and should not be private.

[Top Shelf]

Originally Posted by Ducay

They sell wine and liquor and beer together, which as we all know, is just as dangerous of a mix when consumed together.

They are selling it wholesale through AGLC as they do liquor, so why double up on distribution and retail costs when you have the infrastructure that is already in place to meet exactly their specifications? All you're doing by adding in a new set of middlemen is increasing prices by effectively doubling retail costs and payroll costs.

Strong disagree there.

Also, at least initially, weed is going to have heavy restrictions on the advertising, packaging and branding. Very much the opposite of alcohol. They don't fit together at all.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's kind of a ridiculous premise though. I could see the argument against having pot smoking lounges in a bar. But it would be like saying a grocery store can't sell chips AND chocolate bars, because together they are worse! Because you basically have to smoke it at home, and drink at home, it becomes an inconvenience issue more than anything because you have to go to 2 stores, but you would still do it on the same trip if you needed both. One of those things where the academics provide policy based on something that sounds reasonable at first glance, but the reality of it is illogical. Typical government though.

That analogy doesn't really work at all. We're talking about mixing alcohol and weed, not chips and chocolate bars. I get the point you are making, but they really want to make a distinct separation of the two, which in my opinion is really the best idea for public safety

I'm happy the separation is there. Also, from a business point of view, why should the liquor stores just be handed the keys to a brand new industry? What do they know about the industry?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The NDP have announced that the legal age to smoke pot in Alberta will be 18, and that sales be handled through dedicated stores that cannot sell alcohol or pharmecuticals. Which will take Shoppers Drug Mart and the like out of things.

Stupidly, they are also considering government-run stores. But at least that is open to consultation.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politi...res-in-alberta

I have said this before, I will say it again. The NDP will guarantee a loss in the next election if they choose to go with government run marijuana dispensaries. Write your regulations in favor of small, independent businesses, and watch what happens.

[CliffFletcher]

So pot smokers will have the choice between driving across town to one of seven official pot stores (if the ALCB is any guide) in the city to get expensive weed in a brightly-lit government dispensary, or getting it from their buddy Terry from work. I wonder which they'll choose...

I thought the idea was to undermine organized crime. With all the restrictions and half-measures they're putting in place, the illegal pot market is hardly going to be impacted at all.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by JFK

If you'd old enough to get naked for money, or put your life on the line and join the military you're old enough to buy some damn pot. Would prefer it at the corner stores as well.

Pot stores are going to become as ubiquitous as liquor stores before you know it.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Locke

I cant wait until they start selling it in ice cream trucks or on skip-the-dishes.

It should be available as an aperitif.

https://weedmaps.com/earth/ca/bc/anmore/v3h-4z4

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Locke

I cant wait until they start selling it in ice cream trucks or on skip-the-dishes.

It should be available as an aperitif.

I've thought often about buying an old dickie dee bike and riding around saturday nights to house parties.