2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Am I correct in assuming the package for Nelson was the starting point for any offer for Kadri? Kadri is the better player and is more than just a rental. The return for Nelson was:

Calum Ritchie + 2026 1st round pick + 2028 3rd round pick + Oliver Kyllington

Would have been tempting but I doubt the flames or Kadri had much desire to trade. Wonder what more it would have taken for the flames to want to trade Kadri.

I'd argue the offer would have been better than this as Kadri was their #1 target going into the deadline.
Unfortunately/fortunately however you want to look at it, both Kadri and Calgary did not want to entertain it.

[Sec214]

[ah123]

Wolf extended? To be announced July first?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I'd argue the offer would have been better than this as Kadri was their #1 target going into the deadline.
Unfortunately/fortunately however you want to look at it, both Kadri and Calgary did not want to entertain it.

The Flames must be confident they can get their young top line C through the draft , or trade. Having Ritchie on the table for a 34 year old C must have been tempting. That said, it could have been a ‘no’ from Kadri in any event.

I’m doubtful the Flames are going to find much more than a middle 6 C at this years draft. If next year they are as good or even slightly better or worse, still don’t see a path to being in position to find their 1C.

Starting to wonder if the Flames are headed in a Detroit Red Wings like path. Of course there are differences, especially with Wolf, but is there going to be a glass ceiling they simply aren’t going to break without that premium young C, or elite scoring winger (McKenna).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TOfan

The Flames must be confident they can get their young top line C through the draft , or trade. Having Ritchie on the table for a 34 year old C must have been tempting. That said, it could have been a ‘no’ from Kadri in any event.

I’m doubtful the Flames are going to find much more than a middle 6 C at this years draft. If next year they are as good or even slightly better or worse, still don’t see a path to being in position to find their 1C.

Starting to wonder if the Flames are headed in a Detroit Red Wings like path. Of course there are differences, especially with Wolf, but is there going to be a glass ceiling they simply aren’t going to break without that premium young C, or elite scoring winger (McKenna).

Yeah, the Flames could have been interested but already knew Kadri wasn’t going to waive and didn’t bother digging. No point in pissing off a player when you know the answer.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I must be in the minority of wanting to keep Kadri. He’s our best option at C right now and a perfect leader and mentor for future C’s and young prospects in other positions. He’s also the perfect center to play 2C and 3C down the line if we ever find those centers that eventually play better than him.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I must be in the minority of wanting to keep Kadri. He’s our best option at C right now and a perfect leader and mentor for future C’s and young prospects in other positions. He’s also the perfect center to play 2C and 3C down the line if we ever find those centers that eventually play better than him.

Perfect mentor for young C’s? Which ones? Sam Morton?

[iloveicedhockey]

The entire 2025 draft class.

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Perfect mentor for young C’s? Which ones? Sam Morton?

Morgan Frost. Hope he can become a 2nd line centre. Honzek mentioned he wants to become centre instead of a winger but I know that can be a difficult transition if possible at all.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

Morgan Frost. Hope he can become a 2nd line centre. Honzek mentioned he wants to become centre instead of a winger but I know that can be a difficult transition if possible at all.

Honzek needs to worry about making the team let alone become a center

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by ah123

Wolf extended? To be announced July first?

I thought the couldn’t be extended until July 1? He has an other year left on his contract.

Maybe he’s being added to the American WHC team?

[Groot]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I must be in the minority of wanting to keep Kadri. He’s our best option at C right now and a perfect leader and mentor for future C’s and young prospects in other positions. He’s also the perfect center to play 2C and 3C down the line if we ever find those centers that eventually play better than him.

Not to mention that Parekh is on-record saying Kadri is one of his hockey idols growing up. Kadri is a perfect mentor for Parekh, they don't have to play the same position to learn what it takes to be a true professional and succeed at the NHL level.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I thought the couldn’t be extended until July 1? He has an other year left on his contract.

Maybe he’s being added to the American WHC team?

He can't be officially extended until July 1st but they may have already agreed to an extension and are just waiting until July 1st to announce it.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

Morgan Frost. Hope he can become a 2nd line centre. Honzek mentioned he wants to become centre instead of a winger but I know that can be a difficult transition if possible at all.

Originally Posted by Groot

Not to mention that Parekh is on-record saying Kadri is one of his hockey idols growing up. Kadri is a perfect mentor for Parekh, they don't have to play the same position to learn what it takes to be a true professional and succeed at the NHL level.

I’m playing devils advocate a bit here. I understand that Kadri has significant value to this team and the direction they’re headed.

Just wish there always a clear way for them to get their hands on a legitimate top line C prospect. Short of the Flames pulling a rabbit out of the hat it seems like it is almost out of reach and the Flames will spend their next competitive cycle hoping for a Daymond Langkow or Olli Jokinen can pass the test.

Honzek is a big question mark to establish himself as a top 6 forward, let alone a top 2 C. In most cases, the player turns out to be a winger. Further, I don’t think 2-3 years down the road he will be ahead of Zary, Coronato, Gridin, Sharangovich, Basha, Battaglia, Suniyev, or Farabee. He’s in a dog fight for his spot. Another strong draft or two, of which the Flanes have plenty picks and will probably add to that, he could be top 6 in the AHL.

Frost simply hasn’t demonstrated he’s a legit top 2 C either. At least not on a contender. Could he get there? Maybe, but I’d say he’s nearing make it or break it time. He’s on his second organization with a big opportunity for a player in his age range to grab a hold of a top 2C position, let’s see if he can do it.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Honzek needs to worry about making the team let alone become a center

Completely backwards IMO. Honzek likely has a quicker and better path to the NHL with the Flames as a Center, as the wing is looking stacked. If he works as a center full time in the AHL next season, it would serve him better than starting in the NHL as a wing and converting potentially after.

[Sofa GM]

I wonder with SJ not winning the 1st overall pick and now Schaeffer likely going to the NYI it starts to stoke some interest from them in Andersson. They have a couple prospects of interest, Bystedt and Lund as good center targets.

Would be nice to get that #2 pick but don't think we have the assets for that.

I doubt that the 2025 1st (18)+Zary+Andersson would be enough.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I must be in the minority of wanting to keep Kadri. He’s our best option at C right now and a perfect leader and mentor for future C’s and young prospects in other positions. He’s also the perfect center to play 2C and 3C down the line if we ever find those centers that eventually play better than him.

I agree. I think we would miss him more than what we get in trade at least for the next year or two.

Only thing....i think he leads with his play, but i have no idea what kind of leader he is otherwise (motivator? mentor? takes guys aside?). Weegar i see and hear about how he interacts with youngins.

[YyjFlames]

This is bold, considering his experience in the NHL has almost all been on the wing but I still feel Zary has #1 C potential (Prime Daymond Langkow, rather than Sidney Crosby). He had some pretty exciting flashes, and was really coming into it before his January knee injury threw him off. He also played centre in the AHL.

I'm hoping the Flames have told him to work on the position this offseason, and I'd like to see a long look at Huberdeau - Zary - Coronato this year, as it really feels that that line should work if Zary can figure out the centre position at the NHL. Zary has a pretty good shot, and a developing two way game, so that could work well with a hard working shooter and Huberdeau's playmaking.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I must be in the minority of wanting to keep Kadri. He’s our best option at C right now and a perfect leader and mentor for future C’s and young prospects in other positions. He’s also the perfect center to play 2C and 3C down the line if we ever find those centers that eventually play better than him.

Depends on where the team is going. If they are looking to build and get better, Kadri should stay. If they are looking to bottom out, he should go. Currently, Kadri is one of the main obstacles preventing the team from tanking. I would say Kadri, Wolf, and Weegar are what kept the team afloat.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

This is bold, considering his experience in the NHL has almost all been on the wing but I still feel Zary has #1 C potential (Prime Daymond Langkow, rather than Sidney Crosby). He had some pretty exciting flashes, and was really coming into it before his January knee injury threw him off. He also played centre in the AHL.

I'm hoping the Flames have told him to work on the position this offseason, and I'd like to see a long look at Huberdeau - Zary - Coronato this year, as it really feels that that line should work if Zary can figure out the centre position at the NHL. Zary has a pretty good shot, and a developing two way game, so that could work well with a hard working shooter and Huberdeau's playmaking.

To me thats one of the huge questions for next year. Is Zary a center or wing?

If he is a center then the pressure look at offer sheets or trades drops. I think he has top six center potential as well. If the plan for center is:

Kadri-zary-frost-backs

I am on the offer sheet trade train for a center just not completely convinced on Zary. Damn shame about the injuries and like the langkow comparison as i think thats where management is gearing to center situation short if an eichel like trade falling in our lap.

Have said it for a while we have a glut of wingers use some of that excess for s center.