2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I don't really think it's hard to explain.

Look at Tampa's depth on LW.

You have Geuntzel (30), Hagel (26) and Paul (30). Howard likely wants to play in a top 9 role. Tampa is stacked with good players who play their roles to a T. To boot, they are all signed until at least 2029.

If Howard intends on making the NHL and becoming an impact player, Tampa is simply not an ideal landing spot for him.

Tampa has been using Paul at center for the past couple seasons. There's definitely a third-line LW or RW spot that Isaac can grab.

Kid sounds really entitled. He should focus on establishing himself in NHL before thinking ahead to whether or not he can crack the Lightning's Top6

[iloveicedhockey]

There's a chance he just wants to play reasonably close to home with the wild.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Vancouver media also used the Tkachuk deal as the comparable for a Hughes trade with the caveat that Hughes is the better player, so the return would need to be better. They're thinking a top 6 forward like Huberdeau, a top 4 defenceman like Weegar, a 1st, and a better prospect than Schwindt.

If I'm the Devils, I just wait until Hughes is available for free though.

Tkachuk was a deal for a player under a long term contract because Florida was signing him while they were trading for him. Any team that trades for Hughes is getting him for 2 years, which would reduce the value.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Colorado got a haul for a few weeks of a great player. You’re arguing that Vancouver won’t because there is only 2 years left of a contract of an elite player. Just doesn’t make any sense at all.

Now, I’m not saying Van will get a haul. But the contract is not prohibitive. 2 years is two cup runs for some teams, which could be huge to add Hughes to. And a lot can change. Even if Hughes wants to play in NJ, there’s no guarantee, so (like e’ve seen countless times) it’s entirely possible he finds a better fit than Vancouver and sticks there well beyond 2 years.

Either way, this idea that NJ can just wait this out until free agency has no actual basis in reality. It just doesn’t happen.

The Rantanen trade is probably a comparable for Hughes. Not sure a haul is a top 6 winger, a 4th line forward, a 2nd and a 4th but it may be.

A comparable package would be something like Meier, Nathan Bastian, and two 2nd round picks for Hughes.

[YyjFlames]

This may be why Howard fell in the 2022 draft. McKenzie had him at 20 and Wheeler had him at 10 just before the draft…. He probably told teams he wouldn’t sign with them.

Lots of the better teams traded their picks that year too.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I don't really think it's hard to explain.

Look at Tampa's depth on LW.

You have Geuntzel (30), Hagel (26) and Paul (30). Howard likely wants to play in a top 9 role. Tampa is stacked with good players who play their roles to a T. To boot, they are all signed until at least 2029.

If Howard intends on making the NHL and becoming an impact player, Tampa is simply not an ideal landing spot for him.

And given that Tampa has shown zero reluctance to trade away futures to help them win now, there’s a good chance Howard would have been dealt away in this offseason anyway. From his POV, better to walk and have some choice over where he winds up, than get dealt by TB to some random rebuilding team.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Tkachuk was a deal for a player under a long term contract because Florida was signing him while they were trading for him. Any team that trades for Hughes is getting him for 2 years, which would reduce the value.

I'd argue that if Hughes is going to NJ then it's to be for the long term.

If the Hughes brothers want to play together, NJ is by far their best option. Luke is under control but them for a while. Then, which teams have room for three relatively large contracts
I can remember a couple of times where two players left to one destination to play together, but three would be an extremely rare occurrence.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by blankall

I'd argue that if Hughes is going to NJ then it's to be for the long term.

If the Hughes brothers want to play together, NJ is by far their best option. Luke is under control but them for a while. Then, which teams have room for three relatively large contracts
I can remember a couple of times where two players left to one destination to play together, but three would be an extremely rare occurrence.

If Hughes is willing to sign longterm with only one team (or is perceived to be only willing to sign longterm with one team) it would be different because Tkachuk was willing to sign longterm with more than one team. Point is if Jersey is the only team that can have him for more than one year they would be negotiating against themselves.

[rollie619]

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[SuperMatt18]

That would be idiotic by Conroy

[Paulie Walnuts]

My thoughts are thank goodness you are not the GM. A potential superstar for a top 6 winger ? A team already overflowing with wingers goes out and gets another. Plus a 1st round pick ? wtf

[Bonded]

Oooooof that would be a terrible trade for the Flames. Parekh could only go for an age appropriate centre with #1C upside.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by rollie619

If Toronto came calling with Knies on the table for Parekh and the #22 pick this year, I think Conroy at least listens. Knies is NHL-ready, plays a heavy game, and has already produced in playoff hockey. He’d fit like a glove with Zary and Coronato — and could give us a controllable top-6 winger for the next decade.

Yes, Parekh has a higher ceiling as a puck-moving D — no doubt — but how many of those actually hit? And we already have Poirier, Kuznetsov, and Suniev in the pipeline. Depth is fine.

The #22? Sure, it stings. But that pick’s not helping us anytime soon, and Knies brings immediate value.

Would love to hear from Leafs fans lurking — would they even do that deal? From our side, I think it’s a classic “bird in hand vs two in the bush” debate.

Thoughts?

I don't think you got enough sleep last night

[Mr.Coffee]

Parekh is better than Knies today and by the looks of his first game… ya… he’s got high upside. I really haven’t been too impressed by Knies whenever I watch him. Like he’s fine, he’s clearly an NHLer, but Parekh? Not a chance.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by rollie619

If Toronto came calling with Knies on the table for Parekh and the #22 pick this year, I think Conroy at least listens. Knies is NHL-ready, plays a heavy game, and has already produced in playoff hockey. He’d fit like a glove with Zary and Coronato — and could give us a controllable top-6 winger for the next decade.

Yes, Parekh has a higher ceiling as a puck-moving D — no doubt — but how many of those actually hit? And we already have Poirier, Kuznetsov, and Suniev in the pipeline. Depth is fine.

The #22? Sure, it stings. But that pick’s not helping us anytime soon, and Knies brings immediate value.

Would love to hear from Leafs fans lurking — would they even do that deal? From our side, I think it’s a classic “bird in hand vs two in the bush” debate.

Thoughts?

First, Suniev is not a defenseman and Yan Kuznetsov is a defensive D-man. Did you possibly mean Mews, Morin, and Brzustewicz instead of those guys?

You just don't trade a potentially game breaking player for a good winger. Parekh already looked like the most skilled player on the ice for the Flames aside from Wolf in his first game. The Flames just don't need wingers even if Knies would be a nice piece. He doesn't even shoot right.

[PepsiFree]

Rare you see a trade proposal so bad the person asks the mods to delete any trace of his post.

[mrdonkey]

This trade proposal was brought to you by Jack Daniel’s.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This trade proposal was brought to you by Jack Daniel’s.

It's probably Tre's CP burner account

[Monahammer]

99% of the board wouldn't trade parekh for the 1st overall pick this year. So you can be certain that a player like Knies is absolutely not in the ballpark.

Ultimately though Zayne has more value to us than anyone. I imagine he has more value than that trade to anyone, but more to the flames even.

[robertsfanatic]

Parekh and Wolf are as untouchable as you can get for the Flames.