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Old 07-15-2024, 02:16 PM   #1381
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Evan Wright, Author of Generation Kill, Dead at 59

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Sounds like changing treatments was the cause. Because she was so strong and still working

https://variety.com/2024/tv/columns/...er-1236071636/

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On the June 23 episode of “Let’s Be Clear” — just three weeks ago — an emotional Doherty talked about how she was going on a new chemo drug, an infusion, after having been on pills for years. As she choked back tears, Doherty was frank about how scared she was. But she also discussed her hopes, because her cancer cells had changed, and there might be more protocols to try. “For the first time in a couple of months, probably, I feel hopeful?” Doherty said in upspeak. “Because there are so many more protocols now. Whereas before, I was hopeful — but I was still getting prepared."
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Old 07-16-2024, 04:01 PM   #1384
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"Changing [chemotherapy] treatment was the cause [of her death]" is a bit of a stretch.

I realize you're just paraphrasing the article, but I think it's a silly assertion for the author to make. She goes on to say:
The questions about what happened with Doherty’s cancer treatment are small things to consider in the grand scheme of a life. But they are the ones I’m preoccupied by today. Because Shannen Doherty didn’t expect to die.
Shannen Doherty might not have expected to die right away, but deep down she'd have to have known it would be sooner rather than later. She was first diagnosed almost ten years ago, and was diagnosed with Stage 4 metastasis almost five years ago. From a cursory googling, Stage 4 breast cancer has a five-year survival rate of 30% (link), so frankly she was on borrowed time. The idea that "cancer treatment caused her to take a turn for the worse" is specious at best; I'm sure the doctors changed the treatment plan precisely because the previous treatment wasn't working anymore...



EDIT: This is a crude analogy, but it reminds me of the old mechanic's tale that one should not change automatic transmission fluid in a transmission that hasn't had a fluid change in a long time, because the new fluid will precipitate the deterioration of the transmission (more aggressive detergents, blah blah blah). It's total and complete nonsense, but it has currency because people think "well it was still working until I got the fluid changed, and then-and-only-then did it crap out!" It's just coincidence though, not causation: the transmission was well on its way to failing in the first place, the fluid change did nothing to precipitate it.

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Old 07-18-2024, 01:53 PM   #1385
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Bob Newhart.


Such a loss.


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Old 07-18-2024, 02:28 PM   #1386
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Damn, loved everything Bob did! A true giant in his industry!
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Old 07-18-2024, 02:28 PM   #1387
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One of the great understated comedians of his time, he was really solid in everything he did, and was a live comedy giant.


RIP.
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Old 07-18-2024, 03:24 PM   #1388
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Yeah...Even the recent stuff he did on BBT was awesome...

RIP.

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He'll mainly be remembered for his sitcoms (I still say that the ending of Newhart was the best series finale ever), but his stand-up shouldn't be forgotten.
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He'll mainly be remembered for his sitcoms (I still say that the ending of Newhart was the best series finale ever), but his stand-up shouldn't be forgotten.
The Button-Down Mind of Bob Newhart is an all-time classic. It might not hold up today but it influenced so many comedians.

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Old 07-18-2024, 03:50 PM   #1393
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Newhart was a gem. That’s series finale where he wakes up in bed with the beautiful Suzanne Pleshette and recounts his dream of being an innkeeper with the strangest townsfolk was, in my opinion, the best, most clever end to a series ever.

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I grew up listening to his telephone skits. To me this is the essence of his comedy.

He’s a man and a performer that I will truly miss.
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Old 07-19-2024, 07:24 AM   #1397
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Bob Newhart was an absolute, unquestionable LEGEND.

The World is a sadder place without him.

RIP Bob.
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I grew up listening to his telephone skits. To me this is the essence of his comedy.

He’s a man and a performer that I will truly miss.
I've had a couple of moments in my life where I had to fake phone conversations, and I completely learned how to do it from Bob.

Also, if you go back and listen to his work, you can see how much of an influence he was on Norm, including delivery. Norm found his own voice obviously but the influence of Newhart is clear.
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That skit....he absolutely murders it! It is SO brilliant.

We're losing so much comedic talent.

Oh RIP Bob...we are a poorer society with your loss.
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Bob Newhart is one of the most important people in shaping modern comedy. If there was a Comedy "hall-of-fame" Bob could go in as a performer, but I think more accurately would be as a "Builder." There is no other person that I can think of where you can watch current sitcoms, listen to modern stand-ups or listen to comedy albums and still see their fingerprints all over it.

Bob was considered a comedian's comedian. He was beloved by everyone from his generation and venerated by everyone that came immediately after, and rightly so.
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