In a fitting end to the season, DoubleK got 10/10 right with 3 correct slots to win the week and the Overall Title. Dominant season for you, congrats. You led in correct slots by 7 over second. You get first pick of the prizes, just DM me your selection. (https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...&postcount=365)
And in a tight race for second, TimSJ comes from well behind to nip Btimbit in the final race. TimSJ had 10/10 picks as well and 2 correct slots for 18pts. Congrats for a comeback win to nab 2nd. You get the other prize.
Btimbit, sorry man, you went 8/10 with no correct slots and takes 3rd overall...
I will coordinate with Agulati to get the trophy back as well for DoubleK and can DM the winners for pickup.
Thanks Flamesrule for putting this together this year. Was fun looking forward to next season.
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If a SC comes out either all or no lapped cars get to clear. Toto (and I'm guessing here) assumed all cars had to clear and there would be no time to restart. So he keeps LH out expecting the win. IMO this was a mistake because they should have known that they would try like hell to end on a green flag lap. But can you imagine the controversy if only merc pits and Max wins under yellow? We'd be talking about the time Merc gave away a championship for years to come.
RB has nothing to lose in any scenario so grab tires and maybe get a chance to run down.
If the rule is just the cars between 1-2 then the merc would most likely pit expecting a green flag run to the finish. RB could go either way at that point but would most likely take the tires.
If the rule is race directors discretion then both teams have to make a gamble. But why should teams have to bet on a ref's call? Gamble on the weather, track conditions, softs or hards, but not on a ref's coin flip.
That discretion ruined a good race. Ideally they both take softs and then that last lap is the real decider. It actually was a pretty good lap anyway even though there was no way LH was holding him off.
It is what it is. I hope they close this protest down quick and get on with 2022 prep. All the previous races are what they are, at the end of the day it doesn't matter how they got there, they both were deserving of being there and there can only be one winner.
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If the rule is race directors discretion then both teams have to make a gamble. But why should teams have to bet on a ref's call? Gamble on the weather, track conditions, softs or hards, but not on a ref's coin flip.
Yeah. If that's the rule that's defending Masi it needs to be scrapped or reworded to include a scope of what the RD can and cannot do.
Regrdless. Masi's done. There's too many people unhappy with him even before this fiasco. Even in Saudi the week before you could hear that he was struggling. He comes across as weak and easily swayed and overwhelmed in the heat of the moment. As nauseating as he is Horner deserves a lot of credit for manipulating him and that situation.
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F1 teams and drivers were dismayed by the events at the end of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, after a season in which many have complained about the consistency of the FIA's decision making.
Many felt the rules were not followed correctly at Yas Marina, and now a number of F1 insiders believe that changes need to be made at the FIA.
The subject is controversial, so senior figures have not been prepared to speak on the record in the immediate aftermath of the race.
But a number have told BBC Sport that at least half the F1 teams have lost confidence in race director Michael Masi, and that many of the drivers have concerns as well.
48.12 - needs to be applied to the letter as written, without consideration to intent. (As I've mentioned, the intent of 1 more lap is to get the unlappers far enough out of the way that they won't be caught again soon)
15.3 - applies his opinion of the intent of that rule, ignoring how it is actually written. While I agree it is primarily about the relationship between RD and course clerk, it is also to make it clear that RD does in fact have cart-blanche to make calls as necessary to unique situations.
In his conclusion/suggestion (which I generally agree with in terms of a more team based approach), he assigns blame to Masi for letting HAM get away with corner cutting, even though that was actually a stewards decision (although Masi could have pre-empted the stewards by suggesting HAM give the place back, but he didn't).
Ultimately you do need 1 person who has ultimate authority with the following priorities:
Like it or not, 2&3 get intertwined in every single sport (ie. game-management). "Fair" can actually be pretty tough to define, especially when you have 10 teams and 20 competitors. The motor race was settled on the track and competitors suffered the consequences of previous strategic decisions and luck.
If Latifi crashes one lap earlier, Max very likely wins with little controversy. If Latifi crashes on lap later, it's probably all moot. As it happened it was a bit of a coin flip...someone had to win and someone had to lose. Max WDC and Merc WCC is actually about as 'fair' an outcome as one could hope for this season IMO.
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You're wrong. 7:49 of the video. Go back and listen to that section. He just doesn't like the interpretation of the rule.
Only him and every other knowledgeable F1 person on the planet. Meanwhile the world’s two foremost F1 experts are on CP schooling us. You guys should apply for jobs with Autosport. Or better yet, the FIA.
Only him and every other knowledgeable F1 person on the planet. Meanwhile the world’s two foremost F1 experts are on CP schooling us. You guys should apply for jobs with Autosport. Or better yet, the FIA.
His issue is with an interpretation of the rules not that he broke the rules - as you claim.
My father-in-law said a similar thing; Fastest car won the WCC, fastest driver won the WDC.
Although we should remember Red Bull was the faster car for the first ~half+ of the season.
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Only him and every other knowledgeable F1 person on the planet. Meanwhile the world’s two foremost F1 experts are on CP schooling us. You guys should apply for jobs with Autosport. Or better yet, the FIA.
Everyone has an opinion, I think leave the stewards alone, it’s tough enough as it is,” he said.
“Ideally we’d like more consistency but there’s also a human side, so it’s probably difficult to get it 100 per cent right, but it has to be our target, so we need to see what we can improve.
“But I don’t think it has been any better or any worse than the past
Give the Parc-Fermé podcast a listen to hear from some truly knowledgeable F1 fans.
Impartial observers acknowledge that the situation wasn't ideal, but that it also wasn't a crime against humanity.