Cop caught on camera pushing a disabled women

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by valo403

The people who don't get that are too stupid to help.

Or maybe the person who posted it was to stupid to help?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

Or maybe the person who posted it was to stupid to help?

He's hilarious.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

He's hilarious.

Well now that I know he was joking..

nevermind.

[Flash Walken]

*Bump*

In a rare move, the British Columbia Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner (OPCC) has rejected the proposal for discipline agreed to by the Vancouver Police Department and Constable Taylor Robinson in an informal prehearing conference held August 10th.

The discipline imposed on Cst. Robinson, who pushed Sandy Davidsen, will now be determined through a formal Discipline Proceeding. Ms. Davidsen, a 100-pound woman who suffers from cerebral palsy and multiple sclerosis, was shoved to the ground by Robinson and left on the sidewalk of Hastings Street in June of 2010.

During the prehearing conference, the VPD and Cst. Robinson agreed that the officer would undertake one-to-one training with a member of the Vancouver Police Department’s Force Options Training Unit on available force options and the appropriate response(s), receive advice as to his conduct and be suspended without pay for one 8-hour day.

In a letter outlining their reasons for rejection of the discipline recommended by the VPD, the OPCC explains that in their view the proposed discipline “is not appropriate to the circumstances" and "does not reflect or adequately address the seriousness of Constable Robinson's misconduct.”

Video footage of the incident , which shows Cst. Robinson pushing Ms. Davidsen to the ground as she tried to pass three VPD officers who were walking side by side on the sidewalk in the Downtown Eastside, as well as all of the officers walking away from the incident without assisting Ms. Davidsen, sparked outcry from the public when it was released after the incident in June of 2010. The two other VPD officers are no longer facing disciplinary action despite their decision to take no action to assist Ms. Davidsen.

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/cit...d-woman-ground

Glad to see this scumbag isn't getting off so easily.

[Stay Golden]

Those 3 cops were walking down the street 3 wide like thugs with badges. The look like they are intending to knocking anyone over that are in their way.
Patrolling side by side is usually for safety reasons but this is a show of force.
These are the same kind of bad officers that for kicks pick up homeless or natives and drive them out of the city limits and push them around and then eave them there.
I have 3 family members are with the CPS and these a-holes in that clip are just bad for the badge.

[Matata]

I was talking to a guy who was a bouncer at the BC policeman and firemans ball. He said they are all weed and coke fiends, which didn't really surprise me, I've been hearing that for years. My mom had been an ER nurse for 20+ years, which means she deals with a LOT of cops, and she couldn't refute my hypothesis that cops are largely pushy a-holes with a badge. Think about it, if you were a pushy a-hole with a chip on your shoulder, what better job could you ask for than to be a police?

On the plus side, I've read that 90%+ of police convictions are dependent on confessions, these guys are only in the business of picking the low hanging fruit. If you have no priors, 'yes sir' 'no sir' 'it never happened' and 'it will never happen again' will get you out of trouble for anything less than a major crime. If you're ever being harassed by a cop, a little "what's your badge number and the name of your commanding officer" turns them into model police in a jiffy.

Of course, there are many good cops in Calgary, my point is: don't expect a lot out of them.

[metallicat]

They are all weed and coke fiends; hilariously incorrect.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Matata

I was talking to a guy who was a bouncer at the BC policeman and firemans ball. He said they are all weed and coke fiends, which didn't really surprise me, I've been hearing that for years. My mom had been an ER nurse for 20+ years, which means she deals with a LOT of cops, and she couldn't refute my hypothesis that cops are largely pushy a-holes with a badge. Think about it, if you were a pushy a-hole with a chip on your shoulder, what better job could you ask for than to be a police?

On the plus side, I've read that 90%+ of police convictions are dependent on confessions, these guys are only in the business of picking the low hanging fruit. If you have no priors, 'yes sir' 'no sir' 'it never happened' and 'it will never happen again' will get you out of trouble for anything less than a major crime. If you're ever being harassed by a cop, a little "what's your badge number and the name of your commanding officer" turns them into model police in a jiffy.

Of course, there are many good cops in Calgary, my point is: don't expect a lot out of them.

Did you read that before you posted it?

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by Matata

On the plus side, I've read that 90%+ of police convictions are dependent on confessions, these guys are only in the business of picking the low hanging fruit. If you have no priors, 'yes sir' 'no sir' 'it never happened' and 'it will never happen again' will get you out of trouble for anything less than a major crime. If you're ever being harassed by a cop, a little "what's your badge number and the name of your commanding officer" turns them into model police in a jiffy.

They also seem pretty stupid in general. Easy to lie to and confuse if you don't let them intimidate you.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

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http://www.vancouverobserver.com/cit...d-woman-ground

Glad to see this scumbag isn't getting off so easily.

His "sentence" was some use-of-force-training (that obviously didn't take the first time) and a single day's suspension? Seriously?

Gee, that doesn't seem suspicious at all.

How this idiot even has a job is beyond me, but he wasn't even getting a slap on the wrist.

If that was three ######bag kids in the video flattening that handicapped woman, we'd be calling for them to be strung up.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The VPD is well established as the dirtiest police force in Canada, so no shocker they were looking to give this guy a walk. They tried to let the officer involved in that execution caught on video walk as well. Good on them not accepting the recommendation.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The VPD is well established as the dirtiest police force in Canada, so no shocker they were looking to give this guy a walk. They tried to let the officer involved in that execution caught on video walk as well. Good on them not accepting the recommendation.

Yeah, I found a whole different attitude with the CPS when I moved from Vancouver to Calgary. Sure they aren't perfect but the general relationship with the public is 100 times better.

[jayswin]

It's kind of fun to re-read this thread and look back at some of the debates and posters that aren't here anymore.

#1 - I was surprised by how many people were vehemently defending the cop in this incident.

#2 - CaramonLS was especially amped up in his defense of the incident, basically making up crazy scenarios that clearly didn't happen and then justifying it based on said made up scenarios.

Crazy.

[Paladium]

Thank god for videos like this - you hear a lot of people make complaints about police brutality and in general I feel they basically totally buy into what the cops say and though low and behold a video surfaces and we see complete and utter fabrications that have been upheld to represent the truth. - terrible.

Hey I have nothing against cops it is a hard and dangerous job and of the tens of thousands of interactions a day - only the very few are bad behaviors by the cops.

But when cops do act inappropriately they must be held accountable. Doesn't mean they are kicked off their job but they receive extra training, maybe lose some pay and are scrutinized a bit closer until they re-earn our trust.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

They are all weed and coke fiends; hilariously incorrect.

Just passing on what I was told.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Matata

Just passing on what I was told.

I thought it was pretty widely known that substance is abuse is an issue with police forces.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Matata

On the plus side, I've read that 90%+ of police convictions are dependent on confessions, these guys are only in the business of picking the low hanging fruit. If you have no priors, 'yes sir' 'no sir' 'it never happened' and 'it will never happen again' will get you out of trouble for anything less than a major crime. If you're ever being harassed by a cop, a little "what's your badge number and the name of your commanding officer" turns them into model police in a jiffy.

Of course, there are many good cops in Calgary, my point is: don't expect a lot out of them.

Either you mis-read it or that is incredibly in correcrt, atleast in Canadian policing. I'd be more likely to believe 90% of convictions are without any sort of interrogation or confession from the accused. With the exception of major crimes, numerous people are charged and arrested without "legally" speaking with them about the incident. Its purely based on physical and witness evidence.

And in regards to the whole asking for a badge thing...it doesn't work. That's not going to scare a cop or "straighten" him or her out. There's a bazillion ways of identifying an officer if you ever wanted to file a complaint without having a badge number and all cops know that. Just saying that line isn't going to change anything. If they're already being a dick, that's not going to make them a model cop. Everyone has a camera and everyone wants to record any interaction anyone has with cops. Cops aren't stupid, as much as society would love to think, but unfortunately we never see headlines of legitimate, exemplary police work, we only only see one off, negative situations like this.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Either you mis-read it or that is incredibly in correcrt, atleast in Canadian policing. I'd be more likely to believe 90% of convictions are without any sort of interrogation or confession from the accused. With the exception of major crimes, numerous people are charged and arrested without "legally" speaking with them about the incident. Its purely based on physical and witness evidence.

And in regards to the whole asking for a badge thing...it doesn't work. That's not going to scare a cop or "straighten" him or her out. There's a bazillion ways of identifying an officer if you ever wanted to file a complaint without having a badge number and all cops know that. Just saying that line isn't going to change anything. If they're already being a dick, that's not going to make them a model cop. Everyone has a camera and everyone wants to record any interaction anyone has with cops. Cops aren't stupid, as much as society would love to think, but unfortunately we never see headlines of legitimate, exemplary police work, we only only see one off, negative situations like this.

This bang on. The majority of police are decent. Were these three....maybe not. But to say that these three are representative of all police is incorrect.

I have known and do know a large number of police/RCMP. They are good people.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

This bang on. The majority of police are decent. Were these three....maybe not.

There is no maybe, they acted like inconsiderate doosh bags.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by zamler

There is no maybe, they acted like inconsiderate doosh bags.

But are the a fair representation of the majority of police as suggested in this thread?