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Old 06-18-2010, 07:12 AM   #121
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What is the the saddest thing to me has somewhat been touched on: that the city of seattle doesn't view jaywalking the way those idiot teenagers (I wasn't that dumb I promise) did. The city is actually making a resolute effort to diminish the extremely high number of pedestrian-vehicle accidents thus aiming to protect their citizens further from this apparent threat.

In essence, I don't normally side with cops outside of the respect for the job they do with real criminals. Yet, In this instance I am in shock that this cop was enforcing a protective citation, on behalf of the city, for these girls and those hang around punks, while she and her friend directly disobeyed authority with severe belligerence and even assaulted the officer. However, we only see a small part of the encounter, nothing of the issuance of the initial jay walking charge.

I don't know why he attempted this stuff without backup or threatening the use of his taser. I understand that the taser had lethal potential but I'm sure it would have got those jag' offs' attention.

I don't agree with hitting women but there are women that force the issue. I am lucky to be a larger guy that has been able to easily restrain women while anticipating the groin shot.

It definitely looks like a gun, six shot .38, in that one guy's hand. Kids have no respect, I had little but not this little.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:21 AM   #122
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Boy ........that was a knee slapper.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:24 AM   #123
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She deserved the punch to her butter face, but the only problem I have is why the cop struggled so hard to arrest her.

I don't buy the argument that he was being easy on her. If she had a weapon on her she could have had plenty of time to take it out and use it. And if he WAS being easy on her then he wasn't doing his job right.

I would tomahawk slam her face into the ground if she resisted arrest.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:42 AM   #124
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I think that cop could've slammed her hard but that may have hurt her and look like abuse to the public.


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Old 06-18-2010, 02:12 PM   #125
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^^I'm sure cops wish all people would stop resisting the moment you put them into a fancy arm bar or tapped out. Fact is, people resist and those moves are impossible.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:53 PM   #126
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You'd have to be pretty stupid to rough up a female suspect in broad daylight in a crowd of people with no backup.

She posed little in terms of a physical risk to the officer, he had her relatively under control and he managed to keep his cool and not incite the potential mob that surrounded him.

I have little sympathy for people resisting arrest, justified or not, but I can tell you that seeing a grown man manhandle a small woman would make my temperature rise a hell of a lot more than watching a cop patiently cuffing her with less than allowable force. Maybe that implies sexism on my part, but I think the cop did a good job of defusing the situation. He didn't even really seem to acknowledge the crowd.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #127
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She deserved the punch to her butter face, but the only problem I have is why the cop struggled so hard to arrest her.

I don't buy the argument that he was being easy on her. If she had a weapon on her she could have had plenty of time to take it out and use it. And if he WAS being easy on her then he wasn't doing his job right.

I would tomahawk slam her face into the ground if she resisted arrest.
And if you did that by yourself in a crowd of people who were less than pleased with your actions up to that point, I don't know if you'd leave work promptly at the end of your shift.

Being surrounded by a hostile crowd is no time to become a badass lone ranger, especially arresting a woman.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:00 PM   #128
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And if you did that by yourself in a crowd of people who were less than pleased with your actions up to that point, I don't know if you'd leave work promptly at the end of your shift.

Being surrounded by a hostile crowd is no time to become a badass lone ranger, especially arresting a woman.
Actually thinking back to a incident that happened at pearson high school I do kinda agree with you.

Cop was man handling a student who was obviously smaller than him and could arrest a lot easier than he did, and that's when 5 of his friends jumped the officer, and then a bru ha ha broke out.

I guess that's why I could never be a cop. I would have probably tasered the crap out of her.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:09 PM   #129
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She deserved the punch to her butter face, but the only problem I have is why the cop struggled so hard to arrest her.

I don't buy the argument that he was being easy on her. If she had a weapon on her she could have had plenty of time to take it out and use it. And if he WAS being easy on her then he wasn't doing his job right.

I would tomahawk slam her face into the ground if she resisted arrest.
It took him a long time because cry babies will condemn him for using 'excessive force' on her. He can only use as little force as possible to get the job done.
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:22 AM   #130
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The girl who was punched in the face apologizes to the cop...and what a nice little "angel" she has been in her youth.

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Angel L. Rosenthal met with the officer, Ian P. Walsh, at a North Seattle community center, in a meeting arranged by James Kelly, president and chief executive officer of the Urban League of Metropolitan Seattle.
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Rosenthal was charged in November with second-degree robbery. According to prosecutors, she punched a 15-year-old boy in the face while she and a group of youths were on their way to a rave in South Seattle Aug. 28. The boy told police that his cellphone and $20 were stolen in the incident.

A 14-year-old boy told police that he was punched in the head and his hat was stolen.

Authorities say the case was dismissed when the boys refused to testify.
In April 2008, Rosenthal was charged with third-degree theft after she allegedly stole a minivan in Tukwila, prosecutors said. Kent police said she used a screwdriver to break the ignition and start the vehicle
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...enthal19m.html
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Old 06-19-2010, 05:39 AM   #131
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The girl who was punched in the face apologizes to the cop...and what a nice little "angel" she has been in her youth.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...enthal19m.html
That was certainly not the ending I had expected from this.

Wow.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:33 AM   #132
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Previously, Rosenthal was charged in November with second-degree robbery. According to prosecutors, she punched a 15-year-old boy in the face while she and a group of youths were on their way to a rave in South Seattle Aug. 28. The boy told police that his cellphone and $20 were stolen in the incident.
A 14-year-old boy told police that he was punched in the head and his hat was stolen.
What goes around, comes around. No mention of a gun... Sure looks like a gun.
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