05-07-2010, 12:19 AM
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#121
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Originally Posted by Crazy Flamer
You would rather join the Taliban? That's a joke right?
If what you are stating was indeed the case, why would the Nazis not have stopped there? They went all the way into Poland, then tried to make their way into Russia.
Do you also think they had a legitimate beef over land to the west of Germany as well?
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I have contemplated joining the Taliban, but I would be of little use to them. Hitler didn't want a war with Poland, he preferred to achieve his goals diplomaticaly. This required a strong military as a viable threat. Unfortunately Britain called his bluff and he was forced into a war.
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05-07-2010, 12:36 AM
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#122
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Originally Posted by T@T
Really?. The German people agreed to the treaty after the pain their country caused most of the world in the first war or they wouldn't have had a country....crap happens when you loose a war. 
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You're really blaming Germany for WW1?
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Originally Posted by T@T
Hitler's the one who snubbed his nose at the Versailles treaty, re-built a massive military (totally against the TOV) and deliberately tried to do it all over again. Chamberlain wanted to saw Hitler off at the knees in 1937 for breaking the treaty and warned what he was up too but the Czechs,the Poles,France and a few others in the Entente were too gutless and afraid to do anything about it claiming another large conflict would cause another economic depression. Hitler took advantage of their weakness, re-built his army and the rest is very bad history.
Now, please go join the Taliban and have fun bullet dodging.
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The whole treaty was designed to not allow Germany to become powerful, can you really blame him for disregarding it?
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Originally Posted by T@T
but the Czechs,the Poles,France and a few others in the Entente were too gutless and afraid to do anything about it claiming another large conflict would cause another economic depression.
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The Czechs wanted to fight. I read a book a few years ago that mentioned that the Czechs had 30 divisions in the Sudetenland in 1938 and very likely would have held out against a German offensive (which was a bluff in all likelyhood anyways). It also speculated that the USSR would have backed the Czechs, dissuading Poland and Hungary from piling on. But Britain sold out its ally, and a large potion of the armour, artillery, and vehicles used in the invasion of Poland were actually captured from the Czechs.
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05-07-2010, 12:38 AM
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#123
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Originally Posted by icarus
Danzig/Gdansk had been German land for a whopping 47 years until the armistice. When it was a free state it wasn't part of German land (hence free state).
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Germany had only existed for 47 years at that point. The population was 90% German.
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05-07-2010, 12:51 AM
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#124
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
I have contemplated joining the Taliban, but I would be of little use to them. Hitler didn't want a war with Poland, he preferred to achieve his goals diplomaticaly. This required a strong military as a viable threat. Unfortunately Britain called his bluff and he was forced into a war.
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Wow. Where to begin...
Bluff: To engage in a false display of strength or confidence.
March 1938. Austria.
September 1938. Sudetenland.
March 1939. The remainder of Czechoslovakia.
September 1939. Poland.
These are false displays? It's Britain's fault they forced him into the war?
You are correct though. Hitler did not want a war with Poland. Like the other regions he invaded he only hoped to crush them without any objection.
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05-07-2010, 04:06 AM
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#125
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Singapore
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
Germany had only existed for 47 years at that point. The population was 90% German.
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Not sure what you are getting at. Your sentences seem somewhat contradictory; the only German population in the political sense must have been aged 47 or younger. You might say more accurately that the population was German-speaking and in many other cultural and political regards Prussian, which did not equal German. (Just as German-speaking Austrians or German-speaking Swiss are not German.)
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Last edited by icarus; 05-07-2010 at 04:08 AM.
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05-07-2010, 08:17 AM
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#126
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
I have contemplated joining the Taliban, but I would be of little use to them. Hitler didn't want a war with Poland, he preferred to achieve his goals diplomaticaly. This required a strong military as a viable threat. Unfortunately Britain called his bluff and he was forced into a war.
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You contemplated joining the Taliban, an organization dedicated to the supression of woman, the supression of education unless its of the extremist variety, an organization that during their time in power used a soccer stadium for mass executions, and a UN funded swimming pool to kill disidents. There's something wrong with you.
Hitler didn't believe in diplomacy with nations or races that he saw as inferior. He wanted war with Poland, he saw their people as unworthy and he wanted the living space. Hitlers idea of diplomacy was as an off shoot of war strategy. He lulled the Russian's to sleep with a bogus alliance and waited for his ally to fall a sleep, then he stabbed him in the back.
And "Unfortunatley Britain called his bluff". Hitler was at the start of a war of genocide not only against nations, but against jews, and homosexuals, and others that he saw as not worthy of existance. Britain was perfectly content to avoid war at all costs, it was Hitlers invasions of multiple nations and the threat of attack on Britain that drove Britain into war.
To me it sounds like your points come straight out of a Neo-Nazi pamphlet, made in photoshop and printed on a HP inkjet printer.
And as far as not much use to the Taliban, BS, it doesn't take skill to strap on a bomb vest, or drive a van filled with explosives into a crowded market place. If you know how to use a shovel you can certainly work on planting IED's in roads. If you can use a spray bottle, they can certainly use that skill to spray teachers in the face with acid who's only crime was to teach girls. If you have even a half decent throwing arm you can toss molotov cocktails through windows of schools. I think you'd be perfect for that.
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05-07-2010, 08:21 AM
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#127
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
So I guess you would have volunteered to fight the USA over its segregation laws aswell? Austria was forbidden from joining Germany by the Treaty of Versailles. Imagine if Newfoundland had been forbidden from joining Canada.
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What the hell are you talking about?
Canada didn't perpetrate a war of destruction and death over what basically amounted to the drop of a hat. Canada wasn't in the empire building business.
The treaty of Versailles was a stupid and punative treaty that allowed for the rise of Hitler, so yeah, Europe took it in the shorts over its own stupidity.
But the Nazi actions were the equivalent of the house on the left of me building a fence on my property, and my response would be to firebomb the school a block away then go on a tri state killing spree.
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05-07-2010, 11:41 AM
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#128
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Location: Tampa, Florida
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Originally Posted by icarus
Not sure what you are getting at. Your sentences seem somewhat contradictory; the only German population in the political sense must have been aged 47 or younger. You might say more accurately that the population was German-speaking and in many other cultural and political regards Prussian, which did not equal German. (Just as German-speaking Austrians or German-speaking Swiss are not German.)
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Fine, Ethnic Germans.
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05-07-2010, 12:04 PM
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#129
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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I kinda want Magnum to join the Taliban. Just so he could blow himself up.
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05-07-2010, 12:43 PM
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#130
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Finland
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Depends if they are the "help Finland" -type of Nazis or mass genociding ones. Pretty much the same, I guess. So in 1944, no way, but in 2010, maybe, if they threat our nation. I have no interest to meddle with other nations affairs like some countries.
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05-07-2010, 01:31 PM
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#132
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Chick Magnet
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Potus bomb nyc scientology
Last edited by Wookie; 05-07-2010 at 01:32 PM.
Reason: why did it change my all caps to lowercase?
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05-07-2010, 01:33 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Wookie
Potus bomb nyc scientology
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I hear Cuba is really nice at this time of year.
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05-07-2010, 03:24 PM
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#134
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Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Magnum PEI
I have contemplated joining the Taliban, but I would be of little use to them. Hitler didn't want a war with Poland, he preferred to achieve his goals diplomaticaly. This required a strong military as a viable threat. Unfortunately Britain called his bluff and he was forced into a war.
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I'm sure the RCMP and CSIS would be thrilled to discuss this with you.
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05-07-2010, 03:29 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I'm sure the RCMP and CSIS would be thrilled to discuss this with you.
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Why, he said he would be no good to them, which considering the job descriptions that the Taliban has means that he's completely useless and incompetant.
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05-07-2010, 03:32 PM
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#136
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Why, he said he would be no good to them, which considering the job descriptions that the Taliban has means that he's completely useless and incompetant.
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I don't know. I have family members who work for the RCMP, and they seem to take claims of wanting to join a terrorist organization very seriously. At the very least it's treason, at worst it could lead to homegrown terrorism.
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05-07-2010, 03:33 PM
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Norm!
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I know, I was joking.
I think its funny that someone would say, I want to join the taliban but I'm of little use to them.
If you can dress yourself, pull on a vest, and pull a string or push a detonator, you're probably prime employment material for them.
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05-07-2010, 03:41 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
If you can dress yourself, pull on a vest, and pull a string or push a detonator, you're probably prime employment material for them.
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Unless you're a giant wuss just trying to stir stuff up on a message board. Then you're useless to everyone and should **** off.
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05-07-2010, 04:27 PM
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#139
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
Unless you're a giant wuss just trying to stir stuff up on a message board. Then you're useless to everyone and should **** off.
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05-07-2010, 07:04 PM
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#140
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lethbridge
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Only on CP...
..where a thread about a hypothetical, fantasy situation involving fighting Nazis and Taliban gets so dead serious....
..like relax
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