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Cowperson · 03-05-2005, 04:05 PM

According to an account in the Calgary SUN today:

The psycho had threatened to blow the heads off two guys who were there to repossess his truck the day before.

They didn't take him seriously. He suddenly jumped in his truck and tore through a fence and disappeared.

These two repo guys got curious and went into the quonset and saw the gro-op and what they thought was a stolen parts operation.

They phoned the cops.

The cops arrived and were there overnight to guard the scene until warrants could be secured and reinforcements could arrive from Edmonton.

The first two cops were slain. The second two were slain when they arrived shortly thereafter. Two more cops arrived, heard gunfire, traded gunfire with the psycho and then retreated.

The place was surrounded. The cops sent a robot into the quonset, saw everyone was dead, and then secured the site.

All that according to the SUN. No link.

Cowperson

Patek23 · 03-05-2005, 04:09 PM

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@Mar 3 2005, 05:37 PM
Did Oakes just say five dead people?

Only four police officers..... one dead scum of the earth.

It's still 5 dead, whether you look at it as four dead cops and one dead criminal. Because the way your looking at it is as if anyone who kills someone is scum of the earth.

Sorry he is the scum of the earth and I don't consider him a person in the matter. Right now four police officers were murdered.

I'm not very fond of police officers, but I don't wish death on nobody that doesn't deserve it. BUT I don't give anybody special emotions if one cop shot four con's I'd feel the same way as if one con shot four cops. Wether you like drug dealers or not for some of them it's a living. The way I see it is it's no different than one person shooting four others. I don't remember anybody calling the Columbine shooters scum, just misguided.

This is the most insulting, inflamitory statement I have ever read. I am speechless and therefore will not make comment on such an obviously uninformed, ignorant rant... you make me sick.

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Until I get banned or stop posting on my own will is when I'll stop. See it how ever you see it. For me just becoming a cop doesn't make you a hero, what about the cops Al Capone owned, were they heros? what about my next door neighbor who's a cop and is a drunk and beats his wife, is he a hero?. And neither does being involved with criminal activity make you scum, was Lois Riel scum? for all we know (what the media tells us and what the cops tell the media) this story could be ass backwards and how would any of us know the difference?

CaptainCrunch · 03-05-2005, 05:53 PM

Your right Homer, just being a cop dosen't make you a hero, but not every cop is a wife beating drunken bully

These four RCMP officers were strong members of the community and doing a job that has the possibility of getting them killed. The fact that these members were enforcing the law, makes them hero's, and protectors.

And lets not equate the guy who murdered him is some sympathetic light. He's not a tragic Louis Reil character fighting for civil rights equality, or for the legalization of dope. He wasn't running a grow op to supply his friends with a little harmless grass. He was running an operation that made its money by selling marijuana to teenagers, and people that like to rot thier minds with drugs. He was a criminal who stole vehicles, stole car parts, threatened his neighbours and stalked his friends. There's no other side to this story. This guys wasn't bullied by the police of the RCMP, he was a career criminal with a violent streak that was sent to prison repeatedly for crimes.

I'm glad that he's dead because our social engineering courts would have given him a pat on the head and sentenced him to 6 years in jail.

Hopefully he's answering to a higher power.

Cowperson · 03-05-2005, 06:03 PM

I'm not very fond of police officers,

Why?

Just asking.

Cowperson

KowOfLang · 03-06-2005, 03:52 AM

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Making pot legal wouldn't have stop this.

I havent read the whole story.

But I assume that the mounties were going to bust the guy for growing pot.

If pot was legal then they would have no reason to go and bust him, hence they would not be shot.

If this is not the reason they went up there, then I am sorry I should have read the whole article before I commented on it.

I'm a little confused by this. I have no problem with a liquor store beside other stores, and I wouldn't have a problem with a pot store beside a pottery barn. WHy would I worry about that?

If pot is easily accessible, a lot of young people would be on it, and that would not be a good thing. At least in my opinion.

If pot was legal the police would have still been up there to bust a meth lab. Morons, like this idiot, look for the easiest ways (usually illegal) to get their hands on money and they have absolutely no conscience about using and abusing anybody to get what they want. [/b][/quote]
I don't think so..I mean it's possible, but I think you're losing sight of the extenuating circumstances...

The cops were going there to arrest him for something completely unrelated, and they'd already tried to bust him and he got away...
You'd think that he knew he wasn't being busted for pot, but for whatever the infraction that they intended to arrest him for...

I honestly don't believe he was killing them because of the drugs he had, but because he had a bitter hatred for police.

I-Hate-Hulse · 03-08-2005, 04:02 PM

This has made me think about Cst. Jimmy Ng - an RC who died when street racers in Richmond BC T-boned his cruiser while street racing and what his killers got for a sentence.

2 years less a day.

Doesn't quite seem right, even with an additional 2 years of house arrest for pre-trial.

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pope04 · 03-10-2005, 09:20 AM

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Hopefully he's answering to a higher power.

Or a lower one with a forked tail and a pitchfork.

Frank the Tank · 03-10-2005, 10:12 AM

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I'm not very fond of police officers,

Why?

Just asking.

Cowperson

The only people who say things like this are people who have been caught breaking the law.

Mean Mr. Mustard · 03-10-2005, 12:23 PM

I would recomend that everyone agknowledge the sacrifice that these four young men made in the line of duty to protect everyone here today.

May these four young men rest in peace....

moon · 03-10-2005, 01:33 PM

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I'm not very fond of police officers,

Why?

Just asking.

Cowperson

The only people who say things like this are people who have been caught breaking the law. [/b][/quote]
Nope.

I have never been caught breaking the law other than a speeding ticket and parking tickets and I am not fond of the police at all.

metallicat · 03-10-2005, 05:43 PM

Nice showing of respect Moon.

I had to work today, so I couldn't attend or watch the memorial service on live TV, but I taped it and finished watching it just now. It was a fitting tribute to four of our country's finest.

moon · 03-10-2005, 07:46 PM

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Nice showing of respect Moon.

I had to work today, so I couldn't attend or watch the memorial service on live TV, but I taped it and finished watching it just now. It was a fitting tribute to four of our country's finest.

How is that disrepectful?

I haven't said one bad thing about these guys or even the police in general. All I did was point out that it is not only those that have broken the law that aren't fond of the police.

I think it is awful that these four died.

metallicat · 03-10-2005, 08:00 PM

Why are you not fond of the police? Would you prefer the anarchy we would live in without law enforcement officers?

moon · 03-11-2005, 12:02 AM

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Why are you not fond of the police? Would you prefer the anarchy we would live in without law enforcement officers?

I have no problem with police on a whole so much as I do with specific officers that are police officers.

But keep the overreactions coming.

Frank the Tank · 03-11-2005, 07:26 AM

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Why are you not fond of the police? Would you prefer the anarchy we would live in without law enforcement officers?

I have no problem with police on a whole so much as I do with specific officers that are police officers.

But keep the overreactions coming. [/b][/quote]
When you generalize like you did, of course people are going to over-react. I guess what you meant to say is "I hate a couple of guys who happen to be cops", when earlier, you clearly stated "you don't like cops".

Don't jump down his back for over-reacting when you go and generalize like that.

moon · 03-11-2005, 11:17 AM

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Why are you not fond of the police?# Would you prefer the anarchy we would live in without law enforcement officers?

I have no problem with police on a whole so much as I do with specific officers that are police officers.

But keep the overreactions coming.

When you generalize like you did, of course people are going to over-react. I guess what you meant to say is "I hate a couple of guys who happen to be cops", when earlier, you clearly stated "you don't like cops".

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Well it certainly is more than a couple of guys. I did generalize by I think that there are many cops thta I would have a problem with. That doesn't mean I think these four cops should have been killed. It also doesn't mean that I do think we should have cops.

Just that we should have cops that actaully want to be there to help people. Not jerks who feel it necessary to throw around their power over people so they can feel like big men.

Patek23 · 03-11-2005, 03:53 PM

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Why are you not fond of the police? Would you prefer the anarchy we would live in without law enforcement officers?

I have no problem with police on a whole so much as I do with specific officers that are police officers.

But keep the overreactions coming.

When you generalize like you did, of course people are going to over-react. I guess what you meant to say is "I hate a couple of guys who happen to be cops", when earlier, you clearly stated "you don't like cops".

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Isn't it generalizing by saying that these guys are heroes? I mean no disrespect AT ALL, but they didn't catch the guy for all we know they could have all been corrupt (something sounds fishy about the whole story). If just dying for no reason is being a hero than why don't the people who die like this regularily get a memorial on TV?

And yes you are right I have had run in's with the law, I'm not proud, but I'm proud to say that those things did teach me valuable lessons. One thing I know is that not all cops believe the serve and protect stuff, for most it's just a job.

metallicat · 03-11-2005, 04:47 PM

Giving their lives for a "job" sounds pretty damn heroic for me.

dangler22 · 03-11-2005, 05:35 PM

I don't think all cops are heroic, and some are just plain ignorant power trippers. Here in Saskatoon we had some cops who were beating up Indians and leaving them on the outskirts of town to freeze to death.

My respect goes out to all law enforcement who do their jobs with respect and dignity. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of slimeball cops out there too, unfortunately.

Patek23 · 03-11-2005, 09:58 PM

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Giving their lives for a "job" sounds pretty damn heroic for me.

They didn't go hey if I go here I'm going to die but I wan't to be a hero. They thought they were going to make a drug bust.

And by your thinking someone who dies in a work related accident is a hero?