Good News for Supporters of the Return of the Winnipeg Jets!

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I agree completly that was the douchiest

Looks like a bout of faceless internet courage there.

Says the two guys who are too scared to tell him what you really think about his post.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I agree completly that was the douchiest

Looks like a bout of faceless internet courage there.

Locke looks like Brock Lesnar, so I am sure he would be happy to discuss your issues with him in person...

[BlackAce]

Everybody is a toughguy...

[CaptainCrunch]

Calgary has what a 19000 seat arena that we sell out on a regular basis and the team based on the value of the Canadian dollar doesn't make a great deal of profit. A 15,000 seat arena is guaranteed to take a loss, and the last time that I looked at the Jets website part of their plan was based around getting money from the league in terms of the equalization fund to break even.

When the Jets left the first time the salaries of the players were tiny compared to now, somebody needs to prove that with a 56 million dollar cap that the Jets are going to survive.

Even if they sold every seat in the building at a average of $100.00 per but thats $60,000,000.00 Canadian not U.S.. And that $100.00 per butt is going to be a hard sell.

What are the other revenue streams to cover all of the other expenses that a team has to pay including arena fees, including equipment travel etc?

I'm just curious about how this plan for making the Jets viable works.

Also back then when the Jets threatened to move they were screaming for a buyer, who are the players that are going to come up with the cash to buy and operate the team at a loss?

Again I'm curious more then anything else.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by TheU

also, that was a remarkably ######y post. if not for the threat of banning, i would elaborate further.

Hilarious coming from one of the king's of douchy insult posts.

Jets are gone for good. The only chance Winnipeg has is if the league lowers the salary cap by 40% and lowers the minimum seating requirements. Then that opens the door to 20 other cities which would be chomping at the bit. What corporate base does Winnipeg have that could possibly make anyone think they could support a team in todays NHL? Besides they still have the Moose and the Blow Bombers. Maybe when the Moose start selling out their 20 and 40$ tickets Winnipeg can dare to dream about selling out 100$+ NHL tickets

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Says the two guys who are too scared to tell him what you really think about his post.

I don't believe the jets would survived in Winnipeg either but I am not going to get banned or act like a knob because somebody else decided to be.

When you roll with pigs you are bound to get dirty too. I wont stoop to his level.

It looks like you picked up some of that dirt yourself

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I don't believe the jets would survived in Winnipeg either but I am not going to get banned or act like a knob because somebody else decided to be.

When you roll with pigs you are bound to get dirty too. I wont stoop to his level.

It looks like you picked up some of that dirt yourself

It's much to late for that now.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Locke looks like Brock Lesnar, so I am sure he would be happy to discuss your issues with him in person...

I will wait for a personal message

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

It's much to late for that now.

yeah you are filthy!!

now run along

[the2bears]

[shadetree]

I'd love to see the Jets come back. But when the best argument for a team relocating there is that they might lose less money than some of the worst franchises in pro sports, that's a tough sell. Unless there's a billionaire out there willing to lose a few mill every year...

[Aeneas]

Some people sure are touchy, that was a pretty tame comment by Locke.

I don't care if Winnipeg gets a franchise, I just hope they don't get put in our division. Bad enough to see Edmonton and Vancouver so much. Likely we'd get Wpg and lose Col.

I don't think it will happen, but watching the games in Florida and Atlanta this week...wow, what poor crowds. That 15,000 attendance figure must be fudged. Who is buying those tickets and not attending?

Is it so much better to have tickets sold, or butts in the seats?

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

I don't think it will happen, but watching the games in Florida and Atlanta this week...wow, what poor crowds. That 15,000 attendance figure must be fudged. Who is buying those tickets and not attending?

Isn't there some minimum attendance requirement set-up by the NHL in order for teams to qualify for the assistance program? I thought I heard some owner bought a crap load of seats last year in order to meet this requirement.

[Dion]

Now that the Spirit of Manitoba, Inc., group has ended its bid to keep the Jets in Winnipeg, the Jets' season-ticket sales of 5,700 and attendance of 12,500 last season will fall to the earth like a wounded mallard. Splat!

After losing $14 million last season, the Jets, who are committed to playing in Winnipeg one more season, will lose $20 million to $30 million this season. It won't be pretty.

"You're always going to be fighting the battle in a place like Winnipeg," Jets General Manager John Paddock says, pointing to the increase in the NHL's average salary from $620,000 to $733,000 last season. "I don't know how to explain some of the salaries in this league. I just know it puts an incredible strain on the small-market teams, especially those in Canada with the difference between the U.S. and Canadian dollar (36 percent as of last week)."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1

[Locke]

What? People got their panties in a bunch because they forget that the reason they lost the Jets in the first place was because the team wasnt very good, people stopped going and the market couldnt afford to keep taking the losses.

Yes, Calgary and Edmonton were in the same boat at one point in time in their own respective Franchises as well, Corporate and Community support stepped in here just like it did in Winnipeg, difference being there was enough support in Calgary and Edmonton and there wasnt in Winnipeg.

Has that changed? I dont see it. Even if it has, all it meant was a stay of execution, if things stay bad enough long enough theres no saving anyone.

And for future reference, dont give me the response of a 12 Year Old: "If mommy werent watching I'd call you a really nasty name!!"

If you have a problem with a statement of mine, then try, using your 'grown-up' voices, to articulate your issue with my contention.

As for Aeneas, yeah man, those empty buildings are brutal. Watching the Flames roadtrip through places like Nashville, Phoenix, Detroit and Anaheim were awful.

Last night I was switching between a replay of the Bayern Munich/Juventus Champions League game and the Vancouver/Nashville game, despite the preposterously poor production value of the Canucks broadcast that building was a ghost town. Sportsnet shouldnt have zoomed out at the end showing a half full lower bowl and a deserted arena.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Isn't there some minimum attendance requirement set-up by the NHL in order for teams to qualify for the assistance program? I thought I heard some owner bought a crap load of seats last year in order to meet this requirement.

Wasnt that Nashville? I guess its either that or go the way of the Coyote (Former Jets BTW for those not in the know) and go into bankruptcy protection and wind up getting owned by NHL and supported by the other 29 teams.

[troutman]

From what I understand, and Sidney Crosby's Hat can confirm this, there is a group already formed in Winnipeg (including a Toronto billionaire) ready to pounce when the time is right.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

Some people sure are touchy, that was a pretty tame comment by Locke.

I don't care if Winnipeg gets a franchise, I just hope they don't get put in our division. Bad enough to see Edmonton and Vancouver so much. Likely we'd get Wpg and lose Col.

I don't think it will happen, but watching the games in Florida and Atlanta this week...wow, what poor crowds. That 15,000 attendance figure must be fudged. Who is buying those tickets and not attending?

Is it so much better to have tickets sold, or butts in the seats?

If you have walked in the shoes of Jets fans you would not feel that way.
The Jets were a part of my identity, culture, and my past.
When the Jets left part of me died that day I left as a hockey fan for 10 years after that. I was always Bobby Hull in road hockey and I stood outside the arena for hours just to meet him. I got frostbite on my neck and I still have the scar from it.
My best memories of my dad was going to the game with him. It was all we had to share together. I would assume there are fathers in this forum that have shared their moments with their kids at a flames game just as their father did with them and they realize how special those moments are now.

Now magine the Flames leaving and years later ,and all you have are memories, and you have some BLANK BLANK make horrible insulting comments about the very tradition that you held so dear for a cheap slam on a forum, is lame.

My feelings may sound dramatic to some but if you have been a Jet fan you know where I am coming from.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Isn't there some minimum attendance requirement set-up by the NHL in order for teams to qualify for the assistance program? I thought I heard some owner bought a crap load of seats last year in order to meet this requirement.

Nashville has done that in the past. Colorado routinely had sponsors buy tickets to keep their sellout streak going (but hey, they were paid for!), and Phoenix got told to stop that last year.

And in order to keep the full share of revenue sharing money, teams on the receiving end must have revenue growth greater than the league average.

[Jordan!]

Just to clarify (as if it matters) on the Coyotes attendance. Until a future is secure. Current results don't matter much to casual folks. They could have a perfect record and it wouldn't matter right now.