What an assinine statement. Borderline anti-semitic.
The guy is an entertainer. There are thousands of entertainers who have a stage name that is different from their real name, many of them because names like Leibowitz tend to be targetted for discrimination and hate-speech by a good chunk of the people he tends to crack on.
Get off your high horse. The US is the most anti-anti-semetic country in the world. Almost to a point where you cant say anything without being called that.
If he was just an entertainer he wouldnt have been brought up in this thread and I wouldnt care what he changed his name to. He has gone way beyond that now and has started to go into the realm where quasi celebrities think that their opinion matters.
You want to change your name like a pornstar - stick to fluff news. You want to change your name and then talk as if your opinion should matter - then you are a joke.
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Get off your high horse. The US is the most anti-anti-semetic country in the world. Almost to a point where you cant say anything without being called that.
Oh please. You obviously haven't spent enough time in some of the States where a good chunk of people blamed Jews for the recession. You can also hear it inferred on a number of conservative programs.
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If he was just an entertainer he wouldnt have been brought up in this thread and I wouldnt care what he changed his name to. He has gone way beyond that now and has started to go into the realm where quasi celebrities think that their opinion matters.
You want to change your name like a pornstar - stick to fluff news. You want to change your name and then talk as if your opinion should matter - then you are a joke.
Stewart got his start in stand-up comedy and has numerous television and movie credits to his name. All of this was long before he got his gig on The Daily Show. Why would he change his name back now? It's also not like he's hiding his heritage, since he's very open about being Jewish.
Just an absolutely useless statement to make. Prop up your argument with some substance, rather than this weakly attempted drive-by defamation.
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[quote=Dion;2162321]Pretty tough to be a President during these tough times. Not sure your McCain would have faired any better. Obama made some tough choices and I respect him for that.
No. She had problems with the questions Charles Gibson and other reporters posed to her. And they weren't about her family. Clearly she wasn't prepaired. Of course Palin refuses to acknowlage that and uses the gotcha journalism for her defence.
Quitting as governer of Alaska isn't much of an accomplishment. It doesn't speak highly of her principles when she can't finish a term she was elected for. When the going gets tough Sarah quits. That the message she sent to the people of America.
I guess I'll just repeat myself: "Sarah Palin isn't the one who is demonstratively ignorant here." You don't know what she has accomplished and you don't want to. You don't know why she stepped down as Governor and don't want to. You just want to belittle her. Trashing a book you haven't read and a person you know little about is petty. Denying her impact in America when it is right before your eyes is gross ignorance.
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I guess I'll just repeat myself: "Sarah Palin isn't the one who is demonstratively ignorant here."
You can repeat it till your blue in the face but it still doesn't make it true.
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You don't know what she has accomplished and you don't want to
Are you sure about that?
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You don't know why she stepped down as Governor and don't want to.
Pretty hard to know when she won't elaborate as to why she stepped down.
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You just want to belittle her.
I didn't realise a politician couldn't be criticised for how she answered media questions. The fact that she stepped down as govener of Alaska opened herself up to alot of critcism.
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Trashing a book you haven't read and a person you know little about is petty.
Where did I trash her book?
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Denying her impact in America when it is right before your eyes is gross ignorance.
The fact that I have a different view of her impact makes me ignorant?
Pretty tough to be a President during these tough times. Not sure your McCain would have faired any better. Obama made some tough choices and I respect him for that.
Ya, Obama's made some real tough choices
- Implement policies that have increased the unemployment rates over 10% in the US. Something he said would not happen.
- Appoint General McChrystal to advise on what to do in Afghanistan, 3 months after the General's recommendation Obama still hasn't made up his mind on what to do
- Promised open and transparent meetings on the Health Care Reform and promised they would be on CSPAN, but all the meetings to develop the bills in the House and Senate have been behind closed doors and have certainly not been transparent
- Created Czars with questionable legal status to dictate salaries of private corps
- Increased American debt to new highs, which as a result has helped to deflate the US dollar
Obama is so focused on creating a socialized health care system in the US that he doesn't care about anything else.
You can repeat it till your blue in the face but it still doesn't make it true.
Actually you commenting on some one's lack of qualifications while refusing to look at all the available information demonstrates I'm right. You are willfully ignorant.
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Pretty hard to know when she won't elaborate as to why she stepped down.
Actually she did say why she was stepping down at the time and afterwards. Your choice of news media ignored what she said and chose to look at possible scandals that could have caused her decision but, none materialized. Garbage in=Garbage out.
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I didn't realise a politician couldn't be criticised for how she answered media questions. The fact that she stepped down as governor of Alaska opened herself up to allot of critcism.
Of course a politician can be criticized for a bad interview or two but, that is hardly the sum total of who she is. It isn't even a fair reflection of how she fairs in an interview. Again if you made better choices on your news outlets her stepping down as governor wouldn't be such a mystery to you.
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Where did I trash her book?
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The fact that I have a different view of her impact makes me ignorant?
The fact that this thread is 7 pages long and every interview Sarah gives wins it's time slot indicates she is having an impact. The fact that her first book signing drew well over a thousand people some of which stood in line over night indicates she is having an impact. The fact that so many hate her irrationally indicates she has a huge impact. To belittle these facts is willful ignorance.
Palin 'explains' why she stepped down as the Governor of Alaska. Skip to 3:30.
I saw this and thought it was a good explanation and made sense....BUT...it still hurts her in any potential run for office.
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I saw this and thought it was a good explanation and made sense....BUT...it still hurts her in any potential run for office.
She actually had over 200 lawsuits leveled at her individually and as Governor. None of them resulted in convictions but, did eat up State and personal resources. I suspect some of the revenue from the book will be going to cover some of those costs.
The fact that this thread is 7 pages long and every interview Sarah gives wins it's time slot indicates she is having an impact. The fact that her first book signing drew well over a thousand people some of which stood in line over night indicates she is having an impact. The fact that so many hate her irrationally indicates she has a huge impact. To belittle these facts is willful ignorance.
You've confused coverage with impact. Those are different things.
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You've confused coverage with impact. Those are different things.
Am I ? She has proven she has the ear of millions of Americans. She just sold 300 000 copies of her book in the first day of release. This is a year after her failed run for VP. How can that not be impressive?
Am I ? She has proven she has the ear of millions of Americans. She just sold 300 000 copies of her book in the first day of release. This is a year after her failed run for VP. How can that not be impressive?
I'm not disputing that it's impressive, but you said she's had a major impact and I don't see how being on the news equals impact. What has she done that has impacted Americans or American politics?
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Actually you commenting on some one's lack of qualifications while refusing to look at all the available information demonstrates I'm right. You are willfully ignorant.
Nice try. You have no idea what info i've looked at.
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Actually she did say why she was stepping down at the time and afterwards. Your choice of news media ignored what she said and chose to look at possible scandals that could have caused her decision but, none materialized. Garbage in=Garbage out.
My choice. Did your crystal ball tell you that? Guess I should have only trusted Fox media who supports the Republicans.
From her speech....In a rambling speech that relied heavily upon criticisms of the time and money being expended in state government, Palin said she had given her reasons "very candidly, truthfully," though actually she gave little in the way of concrete reasons for her departure, and did not take any questions.
I'm quite aware of the suits filed against her or the fact. Or the scrutiny on her family and that she feels the media has been unfair to them. That's hardly any reason to quit. If she can't tough it out as govener how is going to gain the confidence of the people of America should she decide to run for President in 2012.
Cripes members of her own party questioned her moves.....
One senior Palin adviser, who spoke to the family in recent days, described the governor and her husband as tired of the constant media scrutiny. Nevertheless, the adviser was shocked to hear Palin's announcement Friday.
A longtime confidant who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations, the adviser counseled the Palins that leaving government was politically unwise, but the governor was resolute.
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Of course a politician can be criticized for a bad interview or two but, that is hardly the sum total of who she is. It isn't even a fair reflection of how she fairs in an interview. Again if you made better choices on your news outlets her stepping down as governor wouldn't be such a mystery to you.
If she can't answer those questions what are people supposed to think?
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Your reaching again CB.
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The fact that this thread is 7 pages long and every interview Sarah gives wins it's time slot indicates she is having an impact. The fact that her first book signing drew well over a thousand people some of which stood in line over night indicates she is having an impact. The fact that so many hate her irrationally indicates she has a huge impact. To belittle these facts is willful ignorance.
Kate and Jon Gosselin are having an impact with thier war of words in the media - weather it be on Larry King, Good Morning America, etc. Google thier names and see all the respoinses out there in the media and what people are saying. Just because you're having an impact doesn't mean the impact is good.
Hate her irrationaly? Now you've lost it CB. I don't hate her, I just have little respect for her in how she plays the victim card and blames everyone else for her problems.
i'm thankful that i live in such a free and rational country like Canada, and hope that the ideals that people like Calgaryborn preach never gain traction here like they seem to be in the states. Palin preys on the lowest common denominator in politics, fear and ignorance. for the sake of our southern neighbors i hope that after seeing that their country does not in fact destroy itself with a "socialist" black president and is better off after his 4 or 8 year term, they start become a little more rational when discussing topics like heathcare or the economy
i'm thankful that i live in such a free and rational country like Canada, and hope that the ideals that people like Calgaryborn preach never gain traction here like they seem to be in the states. Palin preys on the lowest common denominator in politics, fear and ignorance. for the sake of our southern neighbors i hope that after seeing that their country does not in fact destroy itself with a "socialist" black president and is better off after his 4 or 8 year term, they start become a little more rational when discussing topics like heathcare or the economy
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People like you don't understand politics or plurality. Continue on your self-indulgent superiority.
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- Implement policies that have increased the unemployment rates over 10% in the US. Something he said would not happen.
- Appoint General McChrystal to advise on what to do in Afghanistan, 3 months after the General's recommendation Obama still hasn't made up his mind on what to do
- Promised open and transparent meetings on the Health Care Reform and promised they would be on CSPAN, but all the meetings to develop the bills in the House and Senate have been behind closed doors and have certainly not been transparent
- Created Czars with questionable legal status to dictate salaries of private corps
- Increased American debt to new highs, which as a result has helped to deflate the US dollar
Obama is so focused on creating a socialized health care system in the US that he doesn't care about anything else.
1. Knowledge of how politics and how the economy works will tell you that the unemployment rate can't be blamed on a President in his first year. These things take time. If the unemployment rate was dropping that wouldn't be Obama's fault either. He just hasn't been in office long enough to have that much of an impact.
2. Obama is the commander in chief. He has several people in the administration fighting for different ways of handling Afghanistan. McCrystal is just one of those people. I hope to hell a commander in chief doesn't just listen to one person when making a decision.
3. Not sure about this one. Is health care reform getting muddled down by the bureaucratic nonsense that Obama said he would change? Yes. Is it his fault? To some degree. He hasn't been very open with his role in the process, especially his chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel's role in trying to water down the legislation in order to secure "victory". But Congress operates in a certain way and Obama was never going to change that. That said, government has definitely been more open than it was under the Bush administration.
4. Of companies that asked for bail-outs because they pissed all their money away. They want the government's help? They will have to live with some governmental control. There should be more control in fact. We basically gave them the money with no strings attached.
5. Most of this year's deficit was due to Bush's spending not Obama's. And the part that is Obama's is mostly due to lack of revenue and not increased spending.
