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Do you think your entry into the US or Canada can only be tracked if you have a passport? Thes bolded part....this is the second time you have said people in power are no better than you or I. WTF does this have to do with anything? This is why I think you are a anarcist. You don't like it that someone or anyone else has more power than you. Deal with it, it is life and it is how we maintain a civil society.
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It means that I don't trust the bureaucrats that are in a position of power to always choose the right and noble choice. I recognize that they are fallable individuals that don't always make the right choices. This is part of the basis of our legal system - hence the automatic appeals process for certain crimes. Even the system doesn't trust those who have been entrusted to carry out their duties to do them right. I am dealing with it. I scrutinize the fine print whenever I deal with the government. I pay my taxes, I'm not an anarchist. I just don't think that the government should be this big, and part of how I deal with it is I try to help it along to make it smaller. That's not an anarchst's position, it's a very conservative position (Small C, I'm an Independant).
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A passport is one of the most secure travel documents. It allows us o know who is coming and going out of our country, it is not about tracking your movement, that can be done easliy enough other ways, unless yu are providing fraudulent documents indicating you are someone else.
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If it's so easy, why do they need a passport? Why didn't they feel the need to need a passport 20 years ago? or 35 years ago when there were draft dodgers? 60 years ago? I have a passport, and I use it. I don't give the passport searchers grief when I go through. But I also believe they shouldn't be necessary for the Canadian American border. They are a symptom of a greater paranoia between the two countries that can lead to nothing good. Especially as it "can be done easily enough other ways".
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If you think they are making progress, there is just as much data to suggest they are moving backword. They have no idea who is in Europe now and I would never advocate the same system in North America as is in Europe.
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I agree, there are definately things in Europe that are moving backward. In particular, in England, where things like the fact that Bureaucrats can take your children away if they claim you are either "too stupid" or "too intelligent". Have you ever noticed that most of the problems that the Europeans are encountering revolve around bureaucrats making up stupid little rules? Rules that seem, at first, to have a good reason, till they become misused? The shear stack of little rules upon rules upon rules that in the end take away your freedom? Yeah, I don't like those either.
