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Jables16 · 03-09-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by peter12

Couldn't agree more. Hated the ending and I can't figure out why they changed it.

The first 3/4s were pretty good so far as a film adaption of the book could go. I thought Rorshauch was brilliant.

I figured that since they didn't have an easy way to work in the storyline concerning the disappearance of artists and other people that the novel has during the chapter breaks it would be difficult to build towards or explain coherently enough for the general audience, something the ending that was used does nicely. For all scenes Snyder probably had to fight to include and bring the running time up a few concessions can be made. Also they didn't have any of the newsstand or "Pirate" scenes which go toward that as well. But cheer up! I hear they were filmed and will be included on the DVD.

I can live with the ending although it's not quite as good as the book's since it doesn't really change much about the aftermath of the incident. For the disaster this movie could have been if this is the only major change they had to make I'll accept it.

peter12 · 03-09-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jables16

I figured that since they didn't have an easy way to work in the storyline concerning the disappearance of artists and other people that the novel has during the chapter breaks it would be difficult to build towards or explain coherently enough for the general audience, something the ending that was used does nicely. For all scenes Snyder probably had to fight to include and bring the running time up a few concessions can be made. Also they didn't have any of the newsstand or "Pirate" scenes which go toward that as well. But cheer up! I hear they were filmed and will be included on the DVD.

I can live with the ending although it's not quite as good as the book's since it doesn't really change much about the aftermath of the incident. For the disaster this movie could have been if this is the only major change they had to make I'll accept it.

What really ticked me off about the ending was the way they changed the Night Owl's character from being one who decides to be complicit with Ozymandias to one who violently opposes it.

KTrain · 03-09-2009, 07:52 PM

You can check out the opening credits. One of the better open sequences in a movie I've seen in a long time.

http://www.brainstorm9.com.br/2009/0...itos-iniciais/

spydermal · 03-10-2009, 12:02 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqRrpzPcNfs WTF is Watchmen?

the crispy badger · 03-10-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spydermal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqRrpzPcNfs WTF is Watchmen?

this was awesome

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 03-11-2009, 07:51 AM

My completed review is up now:
http://www.press-citizen.com/article...4/1018/OPINION

I'm sort of embarrassed that I let you guys see that first draft, which was a little incoherent. The new version's better--if anyone's interested. In my defense, first drafts usually aren't pretty...

SportsJunky · 03-11-2009, 08:14 AM

Interesting review. I'm not the guy to break the movie down act by act but as a whole, I really enjoyed it. Snyder was more than loyal to the source material which may alienate some who are seeing the movie with little background knowledge of the story but I thought he did a heck of a job.

Burninator · 03-11-2009, 12:58 PM

I saw it on Saturday and needed a couple days for my thoughts on the film to sink in. Usually I like to read the book or be familiar with the source material before I go into the movie. But for this movie I think I would have preferred to see the movie before I had read the graphic novel. For such a complex and story with such a complex moral message it's impossible to watch the movie and not be clouded by the novel. I knew exactly what was happening in the movie as I related it back to the novel. I think it would have been better to go in fresh.

But apart from that, I liked it. It didn't seem like it was almost three hours, which is a good thing. I thought it was well acted, well directed, and well adapted to the screen. Of course it's not as good as the book, but which film adaptation is? I thought the Rorschach and the Night Owl characters were the stand out roles. With also a nod to the Dr. Manhattan portrayal of a very unorthodox character. The action was good, the special effects were flawless, the soundtrack seemed ok. Sometimes it seems out of place, but that maybe because the previews setup a lot of those scenes differently. I will reserve final judgement until I see the film a second time, I think there is so much going on that it deserves a second viewing. I'll be picking this up on Blu-ray when it gets released.

I hope my differing opinion of wanting to see the movie before I read the novel will entice those who haven't read it to go see the movie and then read the novel if they are interested. I actually like the ending of the movie better than I did the graphic novel. I thought the mechanism of the ending in the novel was inconsistent with the reality that the novel setup.

Also as a side note regarding the director. Everyone always talks about him and 300. I thought he did a good job directing it, the problem with 300 was that there is only about 15 minutes of story in that movie and it's really apparent the second time someone watches it. I think his first movie he did was Dawn of the Dead back in 2005. Now that's a pretty darn good movie. I don't think many people watched it, but it's one of the best zombie movies I have seen. Good acting, great directing, good story.

kermitology · 03-11-2009, 01:12 PM

He did Dawn of the Dead? That movie is freaking awesome!

I saw it last night. I was suitably impressed. The prison scene which was my favourite part of the graphic novel, was also my favourite part of the movie. I thought the guy who played Rorschach was perfect in the role. The ending makes a bit more sense in the movie, aside from Nite Owl's reaction afterwards. But I have a couple of questions about the changes/things left out:

1. Why did they change the way that Rorschach kills the kidnapper?
2. Why is there no smoking? The flamethrower makes more sense in the novel because it involves cigarettes.

The only thing about the music that stood out to me as not fitting was Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. I love the song, but not a fan of his version of it. For some reason it just didn't work for me in that scene.

The opening credits were a fantastic way to summarize Under the Hood. Those excerpts were pretty important.

Yeah_Baby · 03-11-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

He did Dawn of the Dead? That movie is freaking awesome!

I saw it last night. I was suitably impressed. The prison scene which was my favourite part of the graphic novel, was also my favourite part of the movie. I thought the guy who played Rorschach was perfect in the role. The ending makes a bit more sense in the movie, aside from Nite Owl's reaction afterwards. But I have a couple of questions about the changes/things left out:

1. Why did they change the way that Rorschach kills the kidnapper?
2. Why is there no smoking? The flamethrower makes more sense in the novel because it involves cigarettes.

The only thing about the music that stood out to me as not fitting was Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. I love the song, but not a fan of his version of it. For some reason it just didn't work for me in that scene.

The opening credits were a fantastic way to summarize Under the Hood. Those excerpts were pretty important.

Thoughts in white:
I agree it seemed weird however, I guess if you consider Dan's impotency and Laurie's actually feel real "human" connection for the first time in years, it could be considered a 'Hallelujah' moment. Furthermore you have to characters who had just relived they're heyday, of which the song was newish.

I still agree that it seemed to not totally vibe in reality though.

Coach · 03-11-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

He did Dawn of the Dead? That movie is freaking awesome!

1. Why did they change the way that Rorschach kills the kidnapper?

It seems that they mixed two of Rorschach's stories into one. IIRC he did kill someone like that but not the kidnapper. I liked the original kidnapper story better, more badass IMO

kermitology · 03-11-2009, 03:23 PM

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I still agree that it seemed to not totally vibe in reality though.

Yeah, I totally understood why that song in particular was there, it made sense, but I just didn't like it.

Yeah_Baby · 03-11-2009, 04:32 PM

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Yeah, I totally understood why that song in particular was there, it made sense, but I just didn't like it.

We are of one mind.

SportsJunky · 03-11-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

1. Why did they change the way that Rorschach kills the kidnapper?

I read something that alluded to Snyder being worried it had already been done in the Saw movies and may take the audience out of an important set up scene.

Coach · 03-12-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsJunky

I read something that alluded to Snyder being worried it had already been done in the Saw movies and may take the audience out of an important set up scene.

Ahhh that makes sense. Someone might want to change the title of this thread to warn people that it may include spoilers for those who havent seen the movie/read the book

kermitology · 03-12-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsJunky

I read something that alluded to Snyder being worried it had already been done in the Saw movies and may take the audience out of an important set up scene.

Pffft.. clearly it was stolen from Watchmen first. Besides he doesn't mention that the saw couldn't cut through the handcuffs, just that he wouldn't have time to.

blankall · 03-12-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kermitology

He did Dawn of the Dead? That movie is freaking awesome!

I saw it last night. I was suitably impressed. The prison scene which was my favourite part of the graphic novel, was also my favourite part of the movie. I thought the guy who played Rorschach was perfect in the role. The ending makes a bit more sense in the movie, aside from Nite Owl's reaction afterwards.

This is one of the few movie adaptations where I was glad they changed the ending. The ending in the book was so awful that it had to be irony. You have a book based on realism with this outrageous ending. I just don't think that type of irony would have translated well to the screen, plus the new ending fit in better with the Dr. Manhattan stuff. The Nite Owl bit was a little odd, but maybe it was easier to portray his close friendship with Rorschack that way?

MrMastodonFarm · 03-30-2009, 09:26 AM

I loved it, it was a fantastic movie, wish it was longer. As for the ending.. I was never a huge fan of the giant squid either.. it seemed so cheesy after such a great story, the change is fine and kept the spirit of the book intact.

Anyone check out Tales of the Black Freighter yet? I started downloading it this morning and will watch it sometime this week. Not going to buy it on home video now as I'll just get the super duper Watchmen package on bluray later on.

flip · 07-22-2009, 04:18 PM

Finally got to watch this today.

Hands down the best comic book movie ever. Obviously TDK is close but despite having the best moments in TDK, I think Watchmen was a better story overall. Although I'm not a fan of Zack Snyder's obsession with slow motion.

Very few complaints about the movie other than the slow motion. Pretty solid.

I didn't get the director's cut but am afraid I'll have to. It'll be interesting to see what the extra footage is like.

I'll have to read the graphic novel now and then watch the director's cut afterwords.