The Flames' handling/plan for Zayne Parekh..

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Anyway, I think the Flames should send him back to junior after this conditioning stint, unless he really rips up the AHL in his next few games.

Apparently he can't be sent there anymore. The OHL rosters had to be finalized a few days ago.

I think they should stick with the original plan. Play him 2 out 3 games remaining on the schedule and maybe ramp it up if he starts to settle in more.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by indes

Mmmkay. Lots of goalpost moving going on here but that's fine, you could provide some examples as well. Can you show me some prospects from the Flames that have jumped up and down from the AHL and become solid NHLers? Because those are all of our top defensive prospects aside from Andersson (who also didn't yo yo around). Giordano left to play in Russia instead of continuing with the Flames development plan for him. It's been a long standing trend that the Flames prefer to play vets unless a young guy forces their hand like Gaudreau, Monahan or Tkachuk.

We can agree to disagree but in my opinion (which doesn't matter to anyone involved) Zayne should be playing in the NHL. I don't think Dickinson, Buium or Levshunov are going to bed every night upset that they're playing in the NHL instead of the AHL.

Wolf, Mangiapane, Coronato, Andersson, Zary, Pospisil, Dube (until, well...), Klapka...

Right now on the Flames you have Gridin playing on the Kadri line, Coronato playing on the Backlund line, Kuznetsov playing top 4, Honzek playing with backlund when he's healthy. Theyse guys aren't being held back.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Anyway, I think the Flames should send him back to junior after this conditioning stint, unless he really rips up the AHL in his next few games.

You already burned the 1st year of his ELC. The trade deadline also passed(Jan 9th), and the Spirit aren't exactly playing meaningful hockey.

The decision has essentially already been made to keep him in the NHL.

[Yanda]

I feel like this is a prime example of how management miss-manages/doesnt know how to develop skilled prospects.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Yanda

I feel like this is a prime example of how management miss-manages/doesnt know how to develop skilled prospects.

How?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Those are weak examples.
- Valimaki's career was de-railed by a serious knee injury that altered his mobility. He had ample opportunity to re-establish a career in Arizona, and after a single good season, is a fringe NHLer at best.
- Oliver Kylington was developed by the team into a good dman, though with some flaws. Lots of other factors on this one in terms of why he's now out of the NHL
- Rory Kerins may simply not play at the NHL required pace
- Connor Zary remains a WIP. To early to tell. Injuries a factor here as well.

None of these are compelling examples of the Flames screwing up development. I'm looking for other examples where a player has flourished once away from the Flames. I don't see those.

Agreed with everything except:


Kylington: I do think his development was messed up a bit. A combination of Treliving buying depth defencemen and making Kylington sit as the 7th, plus that whole covid Taxi squad where he didn't play at all, and just practiced. However, I am not sure he had what it took to become a defencemen anyway. However, that's a tough call still - that covid year screwed up a lot prospects I bet, and he also took his personal time as well, so there were contributing factors that were out of Calgary's hands.


Zary - you are right that it is too early to tell, but I would also say that "Look at how he has been playing!" Short sample size, but he has been fantastic. It is a real stretch to point him as the Flames bungling his development. As you stated - injuries - but also he seems to be doing really well now.

[Jiri Hrdina]

With Kylington there is such a myriad of factors it is really hard to evaluate what happened. I just hope he's happy and doing well.

Zary - has started to look more like the player we saw before the two knee injuries. Which is to be expected. He looked really slow earlier in this season and I had worried that, for a guy who was already not quick, that he had taken a step back there because of the knee injuries. I also think he's starting to show his confidence again.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Zary - has started to look more like the player we saw before the two knee injuries. Which is to be expected. He looked really slow earlier in this season and I had worried that, for a guy who was already not quick, that he had taken a step back there because of the knee injuries. I also think he's starting to show his confidence again.

I wonder if he just needed extra time to rehab the muscles, which are pretty badly manhandled in a knee operation. I've never had surgery on my knees, but I have had other knee injuries, and it took me considerable time to get back to normal even after the joint itself was healed.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I wonder if he just needed extra time to rehab the muscles, which are pretty badly manhandled in a knee operation. I've never had surgery on my knees, but I have had other knee injuries, and it took me considerable time to get back to normal even after the joint itself was healed.

I never got back to normal after multiple knee surgeries.
Which is perhaps why I have some additional fear when I see players go down with anything knee related. It's never a guarantee they full recover. I certainly didn't (not comparing myself to a pro athlete or anything, but I was very active and rehabbed the hell out of it - didn't matter).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I never got back to normal after multiple knee surgeries.
Which is perhaps why I have some additional fear when I see players go down with anything knee related. It's never a guarantee they full recover. I certainly didn't (not comparing myself to a pro athlete or anything, but I was very active and rehabbed the hell out of it - didn't matter).

I thought he was cooked for the season after the first one let alone the second. Would be really nice if he bounced back

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I never got back to normal after multiple knee surgeries.
Which is perhaps why I have some additional fear when I see players go down with anything knee related. It's never a guarantee they full recover. I certainly didn't (not comparing myself to a pro athlete or anything, but I was very active and rehabbed the hell out of it - didn't matter).

I hear you.

My last knee injury happened when I was 25. I was riding in the back of an ancient Chevy Malibu with no rear seat belts (bad idea, but I had no other transportation at that moment). Buddy was a maniac and decided to take a sharp corner at 70 klicks on the snow. Ploughed into a cinder-block retaining wall. My knees thereupon ploughed into the back of his seat.

No surgery required, but I was walking funny for some time afterwards, and the strength and endurance were slower to come back than the joint itself.

[InternationalVillager]

The only concern that I have with Zayne is that he seems to play well for every team not the Flames and their affiliates. Is the AHL a jump too high for him? I don't think so.

[CaptainCrunch]

I've had multiple knee surgeries, essentially knee injuries killed my football playing dream.


I never got back to normal, and when I stepped back on the field even after rehabbing and being assured that I was good, I never did feel good, I don't think I was mentally strong enough to get passed it, and I know I cringed internally every time a hit came back on my injured side, and I always took like a half beat on the turf waiting for the pain to come.


Its got to be tougher for a highlevel hockey player, you have to have absolute confidence in your body.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Yanda

I feel like this is a prime example of how management miss-manages/doesnt know how to develop skilled prospects.

How? He was played, got injured, was sent to the WJC and is now in the AHL to a conditioning stint before he’s called back up. What else do you want Conroy to do?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Cole436

How? He was played, got injured, was sent to the WJC and is now in the AHL to a conditioning stint before he’s called back up. What else do you want Conroy to do?

Clearly Conroy was supposed to use his Sooper Sekrit GM Potion of Invincibility to prevent Parekh from getting injured. And then use his GM Mind Control Ray to force the league to let Parekh play in the AHL at 19 against the rules.

[saillias]

I wonder if our insiders have or could get intel about the plans for his development.

It seemed to be leaning towards going back to the OHL after the World Juniors, but they've kept him here, and what happens after his AHL stint is a mystery.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by saillias

I wonder if our insiders have or could get intel about the plans for his development.

It seemed to be leaning towards going back to the OHL after the World Juniors, but they've kept him here, and what happens after his AHL stint is a mystery.

Conroy said he’ll get power play time so I think that

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by saillias

I wonder if our insiders have or could get intel about the plans for his development.

It seemed to be leaning towards going back to the OHL after the World Juniors, but they've kept him here, and what happens after his AHL stint is a mystery.

There is nothing they can do now but keep him on the NHL roster. In fact, he's technically on the NHL roster right now, because that's the rule on conditioning loans.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Have the Flames handled Parekh appropriately? There are parts of this that are beyond their control but end result, Parekh playing 25 games or so at this age probably wasn't what anyone wanted. Maybe it will be more, right now he has played about 20 games including the world juniors.

I have said before that going back to junior this year would have been fine IMO. He needs to play and if not ready for the NHL, that was the next best option.

He has played 8 fewer games than Reschny and McKenna. And by the end of the year, that gap will probably be gone.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Huska has a very defense first, trap philosophy. Where you don't allow any scoring chances and do not take risks.

Parekh has an offense first philosophy and plays almost as a rover like other defensemen similar. These type of players take lots of risks. They create tons of offense but also can create chances against you at a higher rate.

Did you see the quote a few days ago from one of the prospects (Wyttenbach maybe?) who said (paraphrasing): "Huska is very demanding that you play the right way defensively, but he let's you be creative offensively"? And then he added something he's a great coach, or whatever.

This was an actual player who was describing his experience with Huska. To me, that carries a little more weight than the handful of posters who are convinced (for no valid reason that they can demonstrate) that Huska refuses to let people be creative offensively.