Honzek as the extra maybe? Probably not going to get into game 1 but I hope he gets into some games. He did play well during camp - just not as well as Gridin. The parts of his game that looked good in pre-season were his speed and forecheck - good fits on the 4th line. He also might add some skill.
Is Conroy that stubborn to lose Solovyev just to save face with the Hanifin deal, knowing it's a late 1st this year?
When Huberdeau and Pospisil return, I don't care that they're both forwards. If Miro isn't punted at that point, I'll lose a lot faith in Conroy. Especially if Gridin performs well and gets sent down.
Is Conroy that stubborn to lose Solovyev just to save face with the Hanifin deal, knowing it's a late 1st this year?
When Huberdeau and Pospisil return, I don't care that they're both forwards. If Miro isn't punted at that point, I'll lose a lot faith in Conroy. Especially if Gridin performs well and gets sent down.
No to pick on you, but there is too much worrying over a 6/7 defenceman at best. I suspect Solovyev was gone in the next few years anyways. The Flames prospect pool is quickly outpacing the older prospects.
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Is Conroy that stubborn to lose Solovyev just to save face with the Hanifin deal, knowing it's a late 1st this year?
When Huberdeau and Pospisil return, I don't care that they're both forwards. If Miro isn't punted at that point, I'll lose a lot faith in Conroy. Especially if Gridin performs well and gets sent down.
If he's their #8 dman, why does it matter so much?
I don't want Kuz up here eating pop corn.
Nor do i want Gridin doing that.
Gridin isn't competing with Miro to eat pop corn.
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Also Steinberg was saying last week that perhaps one of the issues with Solovyev was he just didn't move the puck fast enough for the Flames coaching. They want that first pass to be made very quickly, and his observation was that that's not something Solovyev did well.
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No to pick on you, but there is too much worrying over a 6/7 defenceman at best. I suspect Solovyev was gone in the next few years anyways. The Flames prospect pool is quickly outpacing the older prospects.
I'm not worried about feeling "picked on".
I don't think Solovyev is the next Hedman here, I'm not delusional. But why lose a guy that is clearly much better than another? Solo essentially got a 15 game look at the NHL, while being a rock for the Wranglers.
Miro has had 64 games and counting. Outside of a couple goals he scored, he's been useless defensively. Just not good asset management IMO. You don't have to agree.
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If he's their #8 dman, why does it matter so much?
I don't want Kuz up here eating pop corn.
Nor do i want Gridin doing that.
Gridin isn't competing with Miro to eat pop corn.
The point is Solovyev could be eating popcorn too, a better player, and also play for Bean/Pachal at times. While Miro would definitely clear waivers and maybe get his s**t together in the minors playing minutes.
Instead he's a roster spot they can't even use, and they lose a solid Dman in the meantime.
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The point is Solovyev could be eating popcorn too, a better player, and also play for Bean/Pachal at times. While Miro would definitely clear waivers and maybe get his s**t together in the minors playing minutes.
Instead he's a roster spot they can't even use, and they lose a solid Dman in the meantime.
I don't know if the team felt he was better.
And he wasn't going to improve eating popcorn.
And they may not want to send Miro down as that takes icetime away from the dmen on the farm they want to play.
The best thing would be for him not to be here at all.
But absent that, he can sit in press row where he's not taking ice time away from anyone.
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I don't think Solovyev is the next Hedman here, I'm not delusional. But why lose a guy that is clearly much better than another? Solo essentially got a 15 game look at the NHL, while being a rock for the Wranglers.
Miro has had 64 games and counting. Outside of a couple goals he scored, he's been useless defensively. Just not good asset management IMO. You don't have to agree.
Agree completely.
Why do 95% of the development only for another team to snatch up that player.
Maybe the first pass wasnt quick enough, but what the hell do Miro and Bean have on Solo overall?
They're easily less reliable, and have had more nhl runway to show it.
Wow, that's really an optimistic way of looking at things.That's great, sometimes.
We've seen this movie before, and I wouldn't be surprised if Solovyev ends up another Kulak. Nothing spectacular, just a 5/6 the Flames should've held on to over the likes of Miromanov.
Wow, that's really an optimistic way of looking at things.That's great, sometimes.
We've seen this movie before, and I wouldn't be surprised if Solovyev ends up another Kulak. Nothing spectacular, just a 5/6 the Flames should've held on to over the likes of Miromanov.
Kulak played over 100 NHL games when the Flames waived him. He had shown, to some extent, that he could play a regular shift in the NHL, including a season where he skated in 71 games.
Solo hasn't done that. I don't think these are the same things.
Maybe they will be wrong, and he turns into a #6/#7 guy in the NHL. That's not something I'm going to lose sleep over though.
You develop guys not knowing who will work out and who won't. That development time is irrelevant because it's a sunk cost, and therefore should have no bearing on the decision in the here and now.
I don't think Solovyev is the next Hedman here, I'm not delusional. But why lose a guy that is clearly much better than another? Solo essentially got a 15 game look at the NHL, while being a rock for the Wranglers.
Miro has had 64 games and counting. Outside of a couple goals he scored, he's been useless defensively. Just not good asset management IMO. You don't have to agree.
Well, you wrote that you will have lost faith in Conroy over decisions regarding a 7/8 defenceman (at least he is at this stage). My comment was that decisions regarding this level of player in the organization is something that most GMs deal with and they are not that big of deal in the long run of the organization. I see little reason to lose faith over such a minor call.
I suspect that Conroy would agree that they didn't want to lose Solo for nothing but they also think he is better off playing. So, keeping him over Miro makes no sense for the team or the player.
In addition, Calgary picked up Pachal a few years ago from Vegas on waivers. Many of these claims are focused on lower roster players who are aging out of team protection in any event. I just don't see much to worry about here.
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Kulak played over 100 NHL games when the Flames waived him. He had shown, to some extent, that he could play a regular shift in the NHL, including a season where he skated in 71 games.
Solo hasn't done that. I don't think these are the same things.
Maybe they will be wrong, and he turns into a #6/#7 guy in the NHL. That's not something I'm going to lose sleep over though.
You develop guys not knowing who will work out and who won't. That development time is irrelevant because it's a sunk cost, and therefore should have no bearing on the decision in the here and now.
Solo hasn't done that? You're exactly right, because the Flames chose to give those opportunities to the likes of Miromanov instead, to a lesser extent Bean.
Its not a back breaking decision, but its still a not well thought out one as far as future potential and asset management go.
Could easily wind up being another Byron/Kulak.
Not franchise changers by any means, but its better to have them in those 4th line/3rd pairing roles than the replacement level square pegs you're forcing into round holes for much longer than makes any reasonable sense.
