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Old 03-02-2025, 08:29 PM   #121
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Almost 2-2 in those brutal first four. Too bad they couldn't pull it off. The 8 periods of no goals would be water under the bridge of they were holding at .500 on the trip.
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Old 03-02-2025, 08:47 PM   #122
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With respect, I present evidence to the contrary: The Buffalo Sabres.
They are trying and failed. No shame in that. Why would any team try to make bad trades and sign bad contracts? Heck they got Skinner off their team.
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Old 03-02-2025, 09:18 PM   #123
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Ahh, once again here comes Paulie to come argue points he knows nothing about. In the first Cup run Kopitar had 76 points to lead the team in scoring and only 25 goals. Richards? 44 points. Williams with his whopping 22 goals. Carter only played 16 games and only put up 9 points and Dustin Brown had 22 goals and 54 points. I mean you looked into this so much before shoving your foot in your mouth yet again that you mentioned Gaborik who wasn't even on the team lol. Keep going though, it's highly entertaining!
You have the worst takes on the forum.

All of those players you have mentioned would be our best player on offense. We have zero offensive talent.

Yes, I believe a second line consisting of a combo of Carter/Richards/Williams/Prime Toffoli is better than what we have. Their second line is better than any top line we could create.

I actually was in LA for a couple of those playoff wins. That team was stacked with players who knew how to win. They didn't have a weakness.

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Old 03-02-2025, 09:47 PM   #124
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You have the worst takes on the forum.

All of those players you have mentioned would be our best player on offense. We have zero offensive talent.

Yes, I believe a second line consisting of a combo of Carter/Richards/Williams/Prime Toffoli is better than what we have. Their second line is better than any top line we could create.

I actually was in LA for a couple of those playoff wins. That team was stacked with players who knew how to win. They didn't have a weakness.
The 2011-2012 Kings scored 194 goals. 2.36 goals per game. Current Flames are at 2.52. That Kings team really didnt score much in that first cup year. Their leading goal scorer had 25 goals. Not saying same/same but as shocking as it is and contrary to your post the current Flames are on pace to score more than that team
Its the D they dont have .
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Old 03-02-2025, 09:51 PM   #125
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Old 03-02-2025, 09:53 PM   #126
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Win in Philly and it’s looking not too bad.

Do you put Sharangovich back in?
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:16 PM   #127
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The 2011-2012 Kings scored 194 goals. 2.36 goals per game. Current Flames are at 2.52. That Kings team really didnt score much in that first cup year. Their leading goal scorer had 25 goals. Not saying same/same but as shocking as it is and contrary to your post the current Flames are on pace to score more than that team
Its the D they dont have .
Raw goal totals mean little without adjusting for scoring environments and ENGs.
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:17 PM   #128
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I love how the posters who want to see the Flames become the next generation of the Buffalo Sabres are saying the Kings offence was miles ahead of the Flames when they clearly were not. It boggles my mind how some fans are only happy if the team is either bad or heading toward it. Imagine a poster that is only happy when the team is losing and wants them to be bad for like the next decade telling me I have the worst takes on the forum lol.
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:33 PM   #129
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The 2011-2012 Kings scored 194 goals. 2.36 goals per game. Current Flames are at 2.52. That Kings team really didnt score much in that first cup year. Their leading goal scorer had 25 goals. Not saying same/same but as shocking as it is and contrary to your post the current Flames are on pace to score more than that team
Its the D they dont have .
They didn't score much but they had a ton of talent.

Put Huberdeau and Kadri on that Kings team and they would have been battling for 2nd and 3rd line jobs. On the Flames, they are the top line.
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:33 PM   #130
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Bring Sutter back and this team is clearly better than the 21-22 Flames & 11-12 Kings no question
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:50 PM   #131
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Actually this team is a lot like those LA Kings teams that didn't have a lot of high scoring talent but had a young stud goalie that took them all the way. I am not saying the Flames will win the Cup and they definitely don't have the caliber of head coach the Kings did but we are not finishing bottom 10. And even if we did look at how many top 10 picks never make an impact compared to the amount that do. A top 10 pick doesn't guarantee F all.
It’s time to give up the coach schtick.

This is a painfully mediocre team that this coaching staff is getting everything out of and then some.

There are problems in the Flames organization. Coaching is at the bottom of the list of our concerns.
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:53 PM   #132
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It’s time to give up the coach schtick.

This is a painfully mediocre team that this coaching staff is getting everything out of and then some.

There are problems in the Flames organization. Coaching is at the bottom of the list of our concerns.
No kidding, especially after he said he'd never bring it up again and he's doing the opposite.
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Win in Philly and it’s looking not too bad.

Do you put Sharangovich back in?
Not if it means taking Klapka out.
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Not if it means taking Klapka out.
Then move Zary to C and replace Rooney with Backlund.
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It’s time to give up the coach schtick.

This is a painfully mediocre team that this coaching staff is getting everything out of and then some.

There are problems in the Flames organization. Coaching is at the bottom of the list of our concerns.
This guy thinks we have a team comparable to Stanley Cup Winners of the past. When we essentially have no first line forwards and one first line dman.

Considering we have almost no scoring talent whatsoever, it's amazing we are where we are in the standings. Is this team really so different than the bottom teams, minus goaltending?
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Old 03-03-2025, 02:28 AM   #136
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This guy thinks we have a team comparable to Stanley Cup Winners of the past. When we essentially have no first line forwards and one first line dman.

Considering we have almost no scoring talent whatsoever, it's amazing we are where we are in the standings. Is this team really so different than the bottom teams, minus goaltending?
I don't think the goaltending is as good as you think this year

Wolf is 8-10th which is awesome for a rookie
Vladar has been bad other than a few games

Team save percentage is slightly above average...not 90s Hasek
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Old 03-03-2025, 02:41 AM   #137
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I don't think the goaltending is as good as you think this year

Wolf is 8-10th which is awesome for a rookie
Vladar has been bad other than a few games

Team save percentage is slightly above average...not 90s Hasek
Vladar has been average, had good games and bad games. The team has usually played worse in front of him too and he has an awul record so it is a wash.

Wolf single handedly has stolen at minimum 6 games this year, although it has probably been more. He stole a point today, we had no business being anywhere close to the Hurricanes. We should have been run out of the rink, we were awful.

Assuming there were 12 points stolen that you wouldn't get with average goaltending... we would be sitting in a top 5 pick spot without Wolf. In about 28th to 29th place. Which seems about right.

This is a bad hockey team that gets elite goaltending.

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Old 03-03-2025, 04:47 AM   #138
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Flames get a hard fought single point against a tough opponent on the road to tie the Canucks for the last playoff spot and the usual suspects come into the thread and talk about how the Flames need to lose to get out of the playoffs and get a higher draft pick. What a time to be alive as a Flames “fan”.
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Old 03-03-2025, 05:26 AM   #139
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He’s slotted wrong
And has had to take on tougher minutes as the team moved out other players
So, he's not a #1-2 dman?
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I love how the posters who want to see the Flames become the next generation of the Buffalo Sabres......
No one wants them to be the Buffalo sabres. With better management, maybe we become the Chicago Blackhawks/Pittsburgh Penguins?
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