03-19-2024, 08:00 AM
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#121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Suspect they could sign him to an ELC now, but because they were signing him to an ATO and delaying the ELC until next year - that is where they ran into the issue. I'm sure they'll figure something out and if not - life goes on.
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03-19-2024, 08:05 AM
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#122
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Poor kid had a $95k bonus snatched from his hands. He'll probably be anxious to come to an agreement as well.
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03-19-2024, 08:09 AM
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#123
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Ken King is the one who told Conroy you can't win any rings in the media. But you can working for NHL teams in the front office.
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Close but it was going back to coach at Clarkson vs. staying with an NHL team.
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03-19-2024, 08:10 AM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Suspect they could sign him to an ELC now, but because they were signing him to an ATO and delaying the ELC until next year - that is where they ran into the issue. I'm sure they'll figure something out and if not - life goes on.
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No, it's the player's age on September 15 in the calendar year they signed their first contract.
If you look at Gaudreau: He signed in April 2014, four months before his 21st birthday, and his contract took effect for the 2013-14 season but it still went on the books as a 21 year-old signing.
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03-19-2024, 08:33 AM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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I think it is a pretty simple mistake. Morton is 24 right now, will be 25 on July 28. Born a month and a bit to early to sign that ELC after 4 years of college.
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03-19-2024, 08:38 AM
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#126
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First Line Centre
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Meh
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03-19-2024, 09:10 AM
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#127
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Franchise Player
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Seems like it would be easy to just come up with a new two-way contract?
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03-19-2024, 11:15 AM
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#128
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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Wranglers on Twitter posted him at practice (unless they are calling someone else Sammy).
Contract got worked out?
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03-19-2024, 11:16 AM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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I think the ATO is separate from the ELC...well SPC now.
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03-19-2024, 11:19 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
I think the ATO is separate from the ELC...well SPC now.
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Yeah I think this is correct, he's still with the Wranglers on an ATO.
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03-19-2024, 12:01 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Poor kid had a $95k bonus snatched from his hands. He'll probably be anxious to come to an agreement as well.
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That sucks. All from being a month too old.
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03-19-2024, 12:32 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
I laughed, but at least Morton has a good reason for playing six seasons of college hockey. His MSU page says that he's working on his master's degree in industrial psychology.
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6 years for a masters in HR. Woof. At least it got paid for by the school (hopefully.)
I have never heard of or watched this guy at all before. Has anyone here?
From a pure stat watching perspective, I find it incredibly difficult to believe this player will play in the NHL.
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03-19-2024, 12:35 PM
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#134
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First Line Centre
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I'm sorry - this is inexcusable.
I know that most of us don't work in a place where perfection is expected, and that mistakes are going to happen time to time. This isn't in any way comparable to that.
This isn't some obscure 3rd paragraph traded conditional clause. This is the signing of a player to an NHL contract - the premier hockey league on the planet..
The lawyers and agents working on this make 6 figures plus. Basic mistakes like this mean you can't trust them with the big stuff. Because clearly they are outsourcing it to interns or are drunk, or some other stupid reason.
Heads need to roll here. It's not as bad as Feaster trying to give away O'Reilly and our first rounders, but its total negligence from a group of people who are supposed to be the best in the world at what they do. I'm surprised that some of you seem so forgiving about it. This is the sort of thing that competent successful organizations don't do.
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03-19-2024, 12:38 PM
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#135
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SutterBrother
I'm sorry - this is inexcusable.
I know that most of us don't work in a place where perfection is expected, and that mistakes are going to happen time to time. This isn't in any way comparable to that.
This isn't some obscure 3rd paragraph traded conditional clause. This is the signing of a player to an NHL contract - the premier hockey league on the planet..
The lawyers and agents working on this make 6 figures plus. Basic mistakes like this mean you can't trust them with the big stuff. Because clearly they are outsourcing it to interns or are drunk, or some other stupid reason.
Heads need to roll here. It's not as bad as Feaster trying to give away O'Reilly and our first rounders, but its total negligence from a group of people who are supposed to be the best in the world at what they do. I'm surprised that some of you seem so forgiving about it. This is the sort of thing that competent successful organizations don't do.
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Simmer down now
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03-19-2024, 12:38 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SutterBrother
I'm sorry - this is inexcusable.
I know that most of us don't work in a place where perfection is expected, and that mistakes are going to happen time to time. This isn't in any way comparable to that.
This isn't some obscure 3rd paragraph traded conditional clause. This is the signing of a player to an NHL contract - the premier hockey league on the planet..
The lawyers and agents working on this make 6 figures plus. Basic mistakes like this mean you can't trust them with the big stuff. Because clearly they are outsourcing it to interns or are drunk, or some other stupid reason.
Heads need to roll here. It's not as bad as Feaster trying to give away O'Reilly and our first rounders, but its total negligence from a group of people who are supposed to be the best in the world at what they do. I'm surprised that some of you seem so forgiving about it. This is the sort of thing that competent successful organizations don't do.
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This isn't the 80s anymore. Your take is outdated and unwelcome in the world today. Adapt or be cancelled.
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03-19-2024, 12:41 PM
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#137
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damn onions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SutterBrother
I'm sorry - this is inexcusable.
I know that most of us don't work in a place where perfection is expected, and that mistakes are going to happen time to time. This isn't in any way comparable to that.
This isn't some obscure 3rd paragraph traded conditional clause. This is the signing of a player to an NHL contract - the premier hockey league on the planet..
The lawyers and agents working on this make 6 figures plus. Basic mistakes like this mean you can't trust them with the big stuff. Because clearly they are outsourcing it to interns or are drunk, or some other stupid reason.
Heads need to roll here. It's not as bad as Feaster trying to give away O'Reilly and our first rounders, but its total negligence from a group of people who are supposed to be the best in the world at what they do. I'm surprised that some of you seem so forgiving about it. This is the sort of thing that competent successful organizations don't do.
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Holy ####, what’s your workplace like?!
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03-19-2024, 12:42 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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It's a meaningless, easily correctable mistake. Frankly, the bigger mistake was announcing before the league confirmed. And maybe the league could have let the Flames fix it and announce the change later.
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03-19-2024, 12:42 PM
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#139
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
This isn't the 80s anymore. Your take is outdated and unwelcome in the world today. Adapt or be cancelled.
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Come at me Bro!
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03-19-2024, 12:46 PM
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#140
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Holy ####, what’s your workplace like?!
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It doesn't matter what MY workplace is like! That's the whole point.
This is supposed to be a AAA, premier in the WORLD organization. Simple mistakes like this call into question their basic competency.
It brings to mind Motley Crue's contract rider when playing events that there be a bowl of M+M's with no brown ones placed in the green room.
If they went in and there were brown M+M's they had their own staff go out and re-check all the pyrotechnics. Because clearly, the event organizers weren't reading the specifications, and the band could be killed by an errant firework.
If they are f-ing this up, it raises the spectre of what are the bigger things they are making a mess of?
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