12-01-2023, 07:56 PM
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#121
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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So much talent, if he can be himself (former self from 2021) and hold it together mentally, this could be a huge win for Shilly on a personal level.
Rooting and cheering for him…
C’mon Shilly!!!
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12-01-2023, 08:07 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
How does the roster get younger with Kylington specifically? He's 26. Same age as Hanifin. 2 years younger than Zadorov.
I understand if Tanev and Lindholm are gone and rookies take their spots.
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Tanev out, Kylington in is younger. Zadorov out, Kylington in is younger.
No team goes with all rookies. There are always going to be veterans - there's always a range. On this team Huberdeau, Backlund and Weegar are here long term barring some huge move. Then you will have rookies like Zary, Coronato, Pospisil, Pelletier and Honzek, plus whatever D are brought in. In the middle - some guys like Sharangovich, Kylington, Dube, Mangiapane.
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12-01-2023, 08:34 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Tanev out, Kylington in is younger. Zadorov out, Kylington in is younger.
No team goes with all rookies. There are always going to be veterans - there's always a range. On this team Huberdeau, Backlund and Weegar are here long term barring some huge move. Then you will have rookies like Zary, Coronato, Pospisil, Pelletier and Honzek, plus whatever D are brought in. In the middle - some guys like Sharangovich, Kylington, Dube, Mangiapane.
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You have Kadri and Coleman leaving? And two Kylingtons? I’ll be happy with one.
Long term, I wonder if Dube and Mangiapane will be here.
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12-01-2023, 08:43 PM
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#124
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Scoring Winger
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I don’t get how Shilly coming back impacts the salary cap. He’s been counting against it all along not? He’s never been out on IR it LTIR…
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12-01-2023, 08:49 PM
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#125
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fischy13
I don’t get how Shilly coming back impacts the salary cap. He’s been counting against it all along not? He’s never been out on IR it LTIR…
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What are you talking about? Kylington has been on LTIR since the first day of the season. He is still on LTIR.
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12-01-2023, 08:59 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
You have Kadri and Coleman leaving? And two Kylingtons? I’ll be happy with one.
Long term, I wonder if Dube and Mangiapane will be here.
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Kadri no. Coleman has a few years left. Point being, it’s not going to happen all at once.
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12-01-2023, 09:03 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Right now, the Flames total team payroll carries a cap hit of $82,960,166, which includes Kylington, Rooney, and Pelletier.
After the Zadorov trade and Solovyov recall, they are fully cap compliant without using any LTIR space. Because they currently only have 22 players on the active roster (23 maximum), they could activate Kylington at any time without making any additional roster moves.
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12-02-2023, 08:49 AM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Right now, the Flames total team payroll carries a cap hit of $82,960,166, which includes Kylington, Rooney, and Pelletier.
After the Zadorov trade and Solovyov recall, they are fully cap compliant without using any LTIR space. Because they currently only have 22 players on the active roster (23 maximum), they could activate Kylington at any time without making any additional roster moves.
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I like our front office allowing Kylington to work to get back on the saddle in private, wait to clear some cap room, and then let him take a few laps in public.
If he comes back, imagine the dome noise level when he hits the ice.
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12-02-2023, 09:58 AM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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With Sharangovich, Kylington and Mangiapane the Flames are exhausting their 'Name Bar' Budget.
They might squeak in under the wire because they ditched a 'Z.'
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12-02-2023, 10:08 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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He hasn't played in a long time. It could take a while for him to get back to game speed and even longer to pickup his play where he left off.
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12-02-2023, 10:10 AM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He hasn't played in a long time. It could take a while for him to get back to game speed and even longer to pickup his play where he left off.
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Agreed, could take a couple months, He has not played in over 100 games.
However its great to see him skating etc.
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12-02-2023, 10:12 AM
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#132
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First Line Centre
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Does O.K. qualify for a conditioning stint in the AHL?
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12-02-2023, 10:17 AM
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#133
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Scoring Winger
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Yes, pretty sure Sureloss stated 3 games or 6 days whichever comes first, then their is an opportunity to request longer as an exception that could possibly get granted.
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Does O.K. qualify for a conditioning stint in the AHL?
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12-02-2023, 10:19 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
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Sucks that he is also a UFA at seasons end.
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12-02-2023, 10:31 AM
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#135
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Sucks that he is also a UFA at seasons end.
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I would think both parties could get on the same page if Oliver is ok mentally.
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12-02-2023, 10:36 AM
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#136
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Sucks that he is also a UFA at seasons end.
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Why? Why wouldn’t both parties be interested in continuing their professional relationship?
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12-02-2023, 10:42 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Why? Why wouldn’t both parties be interested in continuing their professional relationship?
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Maybe they would be? I dunno
Would still be better if the player was still under control. Once less question mark to wonder about.
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12-02-2023, 10:43 AM
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#138
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My face is a bum!
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I think it's reasonable to speculate given how his past couple years have been the stability of not moving cities/organizations would be a big factor in his decision. Plus it seems like the treatment of this has been totally top class, and he's bound to feel some gratitude.
Given the zero expectations for this season, I'd be more excited about him being back in the league and watching him work his way into form than I am about the prospect of him playing as well as he was when he last played.
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12-02-2023, 10:45 AM
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#139
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Maybe they would be? I dunno
Would still be better if the player was still under control. Once less question mark to wonder about.
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Better, yeah… but it’s something that happens every summer. I didn’t understand what “sucked” about it.
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12-02-2023, 10:46 AM
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#140
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
With Sharangovich, Kylington and Mangiapane the Flames are exhausting their 'Name Bar' Budget.
They might squeak in under the wire because they ditched a 'Z.'
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Think that's why Hunt mae the team out of camp, and Zary was the only player available to replace him when they sent him down.
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