10-07-2023, 07:54 PM
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#121
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by Spurs
LOL
"You have never been to the Middle East" is easy to see on a message board?
You really are as clueless as you come off. I thought maybe it was just emotion but nope straight up stupidity.
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Comparing Palestinians parading in the streets, passing around mutilated bodies, handing out candy to children with Canadian protestors in Ottawa was actually the peak stupidity here.
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10-07-2023, 07:58 PM
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#122
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Obfuscate all you want, it doesnt change the actual question asked.
Thing is....i wish there was another answer but when you have war declared on you as a soverign nation by a state sponsored militant group, you have to take them out where they stand.
These cowards hide behind civilians unfortunately. They want this fight as their leader has stated.
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Saleh al-Arouri, commander of Al-Qassam Brigades of Hamas in the West Bank made the following DIRECT QUOTES:
- What is in our hands will free all the prisoners in the occupation prisons!
- We have information that the occupation army was preparing to launch an aggression against Gaza and the West Bank.
- We captured senior Israeli officers
- Enemy ground entry into Gaza would be the best scenario for the resistance
- We have no choice but to continue this battle
- This is not a [hit-and-run] operation; we started an all-out battle. We expect fighting to continue and the fighting front to expand. We have one prime target: our freedom and the freedom of our holy sites.
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https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/stat...61037882536192
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10-07-2023, 08:06 PM
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#123
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beninho
Comparing Palestinians parading in the streets, passing around mutilated bodies, handing out candy to children with Canadian protestors in Ottawa was actually the peak stupidity here.
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I didn't say it was the same action I point out the fact you are using what some citizens are doing to make a blanket statement about all citizens is silly.
But as you have shown this whole thread reading is too difficult for you so I am not surprised you got it wrong again.
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10-07-2023, 08:16 PM
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#124
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I have a message to any Hamas apologists around here, buy a popsicle, chill out and stop posting.
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10-07-2023, 08:20 PM
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#125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Obfuscate all you want, it doesnt change the actual question asked.
Thing is....i wish there was another answer but when you have war declared on you as a soverign nation by a state sponsored militant group, you have to take them out where they stand.
These cowards hide behind civilians unfortunately. They want this fight as their leader has stated.
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/stat...61037882536192
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Of course they do. If it doesn’t measure Israel’s response, it leads them into acting in ways that will erode their support. Hamas knows this. But that doesn’t absolve Israel from the rules in place and their responsibilities. “They made me do it” is not a valid excuse in war, and if people actually care about all civilians involved, they wouldn’t take it as one.
This particular escalation from Hamas has already caused so much death and terror, and we are all adult enough to admit that the response is going to bring much worse whether we think it’s justified or not. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect more of Israel than we do of a terrorist organization, do you?
We expect more of Ukraine and they aren’t even the occupiers.
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10-07-2023, 08:21 PM
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#126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
I have a message to any Hamas apologists around here, buy a popsicle, chill out and stop posting.
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There are no Hamas apologists here, so weird to make a post about nothing.
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10-07-2023, 08:35 PM
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#127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
There are no Hamas apologists here, so weird to make a post about nothing.
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Oh? must be just Jew hatred then
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10-07-2023, 08:38 PM
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#128
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Oh? must be just Jew hatred then 
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Whoever had post #127, you've won a new car.
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10-07-2023, 08:43 PM
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#129
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Absolutely horrific violence. And even looking at it from the most cold and calculated perspective, it seems like a pretty terrible strategic error by Hamas. Sure, they'll get some prisoners back with the hostages they took, but the blowback is going to be enormous.
Unfortunately, like the Taliban, Hamas is another example of the side effects of encouraging religious fanaticism in order to fight communism. In the '70s and '80s, Israel tolerated and even supported the movement among fundamentalist Muslims that led to Hamas as a means of undermining the more secular PLO.
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10-07-2023, 08:47 PM
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#130
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Oh? must be just Jew hatred then 
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LOL
So you have nothing but empty accusations, not really surprising.
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10-07-2023, 08:48 PM
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#131
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beninho
Dude the entire population is celebrating. I could show you thousands of snapchat videos with Palestinians parading in the streets with hamas flags. You are living in la la land. This is a society who is brainwashed from infancy to vehemently hate Jews. But they should negotiate and show restraint with these animals? Sure. Making such a ridiculous comparison shows me you’ve never stepped foot in the middle east or had a discussion with an Islamist. It is a rampant ideology in the middle east and I promise you the average Palestinian is not upset by these attacks.
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Yeah, the videos of people celebrating in different Arab countries makes me question the validity of the statement that ordinary Arabs don't support Hamas or Hezbollah when they commit terrorism.
Anyway, this video of Israel shooting down rockets is amazing.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1710849008204177606
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10-07-2023, 08:50 PM
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#132
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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I know it always needs to be said, but many things can be true at once.
Hamas is a terrorist organization who's ultimate goals are immoral and wrong. What they've done is abhorrent and will not advance the Palestinian cause. Hamas should be destroyed and support for them should make any state a pariah state.
Israel has an apartheid system of oppression against Palestinians and have been increasing anti-israeli sentiment in occupied territories by aggressively expanding settlements
Palestinians celebration of the killing of innocent people is immoral and there's no justification for it.
Destroying Gaza and killing more innocent people will not make Israel safer or hurt Hamas or help Israel in any way. It will only make things worse and it's not justice
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10-07-2023, 08:55 PM
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#133
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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This is heart wrenching. People need to see what these animals are doing. They murdered their sister and the kids are in shock.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1710848682155991055
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10-07-2023, 09:01 PM
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#134
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Originally Posted by chemgear
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10-07-2023, 09:08 PM
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#135
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
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There was another incident where the hamas terrorist went on the victims facebook and put in on live so their families could watch.
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10-07-2023, 09:10 PM
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#136
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I know it always needs to be said, but many things can be true at once.
Hamas is a terrorist organization who's ultimate goals are immoral and wrong. What they've done is abhorrent and will not advance the Palestinian cause. Hamas should be destroyed and support for them should make any state a pariah state.
Israel has an apartheid system of oppression against Palestinians and have been increasing anti-israeli sentiment in occupied territories by aggressively expanding settlements
Palestinians celebration of the killing of innocent people is immoral and there's no justification for it.
Destroying Gaza and killing more innocent people will not make Israel safer or hurt Hamas or help Israel in any way. It will only make things worse and it's not justice
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Agreed.
Even worse when they do it in Canada.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1710847081022390287
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10-07-2023, 09:40 PM
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#137
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Several disgusting videos of Hamas committing atrocities in on line articles in the New York Post.
The content is graphic and disturbing.
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10-07-2023, 09:43 PM
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#138
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
Israel has coexisted just fine with Egypt and Jordan. That's why I had hope for a peaceful solution for the longest time. It doesn't seem possible now because both sides are set on making it into an existential war.
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It will be interesting to see where Saudi Arabia lands on this. They've been stepping away from Palestine for years.
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10-07-2023, 09:44 PM
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#139
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
The situation over there is so terrible. The history of back and forth will never stop. Yesterday's actions by Hamas need to be condemned, but Israel isn't some consistently moral player here by any means as some try to paint them as. The UN has already found before that Israel forces torture detained Palestinian children (since we're talking about torturing kids), not to mention how they deny Palestinians to health care and clean water as someone else mentioned.
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Hamas is known to use child soldiers.
Since we are on the topic of Palestinian children.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1710858178353873358
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10-07-2023, 09:50 PM
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#140
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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