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Old 09-14-2023, 07:37 PM   #121
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I don't agree that players that want to play here should sign at a discount. Pay them what they are worth.


I do think that this organization should not overpay for players, period, regardless of years of service, past performances, or.. even sheer desperation. Simply do not overpay players.


I don't think Backlund should take a discount. I don't think that the Flames should overpay him. I do think that if he re-signs - at a fair deal (whatever that is) - he gets the C instantly.



What he wants is to win. I want that in a captain almost above anything else.
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Old 09-14-2023, 08:03 PM   #122
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:01 AM   #123
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Id be surprised if it didn't go to Backlund.
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:04 AM   #124
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Id be surprised if it didn't go to Backlund.
What?! Have you been following the off season or contracts at all?
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Old 09-15-2023, 07:45 AM   #125
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Yea but the more you hear from players it’s almost weird not naming Backs the C at this point, regardless of the contract situation. If he leaves he can hand it over to his Swede buddy Rasmus.

I’m all for Raz getting the C to start a new “regime” but as long as Backs is still here it almost gotten awkward feeling at this point.

At the end of the day tho regardless of who it is I just want that room to buy into it and focus on a bounce back season from everyone.
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:46 AM   #126
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Last thing the Flames should do, place a "C" on a jersey then trade the player 40+ games later

My guess Rasmus should have the "C"
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:59 AM   #127
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Last thing the Flames should do, place a "C" on a jersey then trade the player 40+ games later

My guess Rasmus should have the "C"
The team is obviously going for it this year. Right now the plan is to have a great start and to keep at least Backlund, and Lindholm. If Backlund as the captain gives the team the best chance to perform, and keep players accountable then he should be the captain.

If things don't work out we can always name Andersson, Weegar, or Huberdeau as a captain mid-season. I don't think it sends a wrong message, as much as signal a change of the team's direction. What's the real harm of having Backlund as a captain for 40 games, or Andersson for 40 less games?
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:19 PM   #128
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The team is obviously going for it this year. Right now the plan is to have a great start and to keep at least Backlund, and Lindholm. If Backlund as the captain gives the team the best chance to perform, and keep players accountable then he should be the captain.

If things don't work out we can always name Andersson, Weegar, or Huberdeau as a captain mid-season. I don't think it sends a wrong message, as much as signal a change of the team's direction. What's the real harm of having Backlund as a captain for 40 games, or Andersson for 40 less games?
Sorry, but I don't agree. Flames are looking at it from a long term perspective.

Their division is likely the toughest in the NHL,

Won't be an easy season to make the playoffs.

In my view, Backlund is definitely not the captain

He should had it last season, but his opportunity is gone
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:20 PM   #129
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Put a C on Backlund, then when other teams ask for him charge a premium because "you're asking us to trade the captain".
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Put a C on Backlund, then when other teams ask for him charge a premium because "you're asking us to trade the captain".
That is actually brilliant.
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:40 PM   #131
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What?! Have you been following the off season or contracts at all?
I agree in theory but Zadorov spoke pretty strongly stating that Backlund was their captain in all but name for the past 2 years. If the players have already decided who it is, well
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I agree in theory but Zadorov spoke pretty strongly stating that Backlund was their captain in all but name for the past 2 years. If the players have already decided who it is, well
Personally I don't believe the players will make the decision,

C will be named by the management (Coaches and GM)
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I just don't know how they fit Backlund into the cap structure picture moving forward. ImO the writing is on the wall for guys like Tanev and Backlund. Their time with the Flames is ending much sooner than later. Just doesn't make sense to make a player who isn't in the long term picture the captain.
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Old 09-15-2023, 01:22 PM   #134
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Backlund makes sense here. Higher trade value if traded. Players like it more. Easier to resign?

Let’s face it, if we trade him, it means the season didn’t go well and gives the opportunity to find the next captain with more viewing of Huberdeau and Weegar.

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Old 09-15-2023, 01:39 PM   #135
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Their division is likely the toughest in the NHL,
well this part is a little off. I think you could easily argue that it's the worst in the league.
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well this part is a little off. I think you could easily argue that it's the worst in the league.
The Pacific and the Atlantic are easy the two toughest divisions in hockey right now. The Central is easily the worst.

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Old 09-15-2023, 10:06 PM   #137
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Can’t go wrong with either Backlund or Ras. Obviously given the contract situation with Backlund and as of yet not signing a long term deal limits his chances. Personally it sounds like the group really sees him as the ideal choice but you can’t take the risk if he wants out.

What strikes me as odd is that Huberdeau isn’t in the conversation. He’s getting paid to be the face of the franchise. Haven’t followed the thread closely but is there a reason why his name is being mentioned? Does he not want it or are other factors at play? With that contract it seems odd that this wouldn’t be a guy they want to invest in and put the C on.
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Old 09-17-2023, 07:04 PM   #138
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Huska also talked about how Backlund was instrumental in boosting his confidence during the coach hiring process.

Sounds like Backlund has respect of the city, management, players, coaches. He's a grizzled vet who played his whole career for one team. He's a consummate gentleman. He loves the organization and city.

Dave Lowry was captain for two seasons
Craig Simpson for two seasons
Conroy for one season
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Huska also talked about how Backlund was instrumental in boosting his confidence during the coach hiring process.

Sounds like Backlund has respect of the city, management, players, coaches. He's a grizzled vet who played his whole career for one team. He's a consummate gentleman. He loves the organization and city.

Dave Lowry was captain for two seasons
Craig Simpson for two seasons
Conroy for one season
Todd Simpson?
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Huska also talked about how Backlund was instrumental in boosting his confidence during the coach hiring process.

Sounds like Backlund has respect of the city, management, players, coaches. He's a grizzled vet who played his whole career for one team. He's a consummate gentleman. He loves the organization and city.

Dave Lowry was captain for two seasons
Craig Simpson for two seasons
Conroy for one season
He is going to have to take a large pay cut, I don't see that coming off a career year. If he will sign for half of what he is currently making then ok, but if he wants the money he is making now and he probably will the Flames are better off walking away.
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