The crazy thing about games is people have such a varied experience with the same game. I have never enjoyed a Ubisoft/AC game including the highly rated Brotherhood which I didn't find the story to be great by any means.
When it comes to games, I hate online/youtube reviews, I prefer to play the game myself before I make any judgement. I was not a fan of the Fallout franchise except for the IMO awesome New Vegas, and always had a great time with Elder Scrolls games going back to Morrowind.
But to get to Starfield, the game IMO is so much fun and your right, the game is not great it is awesome! The story is intriguing so far...but I get caught up in random things that pop up and I love it! Some of the random things that have happened to me so far have just been so cool . You can do practically anything you want. Explore, Pirate, police, smuggle, heck you can even just be glorified space farmer/trucker.
For example, my buddy was showing me his outposts to generate resources across the game, he would then stop at one of them load up all the available resources and haul them to sell off. He even had a nice group of greenhouses to farm food for consumption and sale.
I assume you have made up your mind about the game but if you have a PC/XBox and gamepass, there is no reason not to give it a shot if you have some free time to dedicate to the game.
I tried it now actually. I echo Jordan's take. It seems outdated but new. It is just so tedious. I guess I just like more high end action based games or at least with non stop in your face story telling.
I don't really care to tweak my ship for hours ot go colony to colony to sell ####. Kinda the same reason I mainlined mass effect and fall out games.
To a lesser extent its why I stopped playing Atomic heart ,as it draws heavily from Fallout, half life and wolfinstien. Not my cup of tea.
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I tried it now actually. I echo Jordan's take. It seems outdated but new. It is just so tedious. I guess I just like more high end action based games or at least with non stop in your face story telling.
I don't really care to tweak my ship for hours ot go colony to colony to sell ####. Kinda the same reason I mainlined mass effect and fall out games.
To a lesser extent its why I stopped playing Atomic heart ,as it draws heavily from Fallout, half life and wolfinstien. Not my cup of tea.
Enjoy Spiderman! Should be a great ~20 to 35 hours of fun!
Enjoy Spiderman! Should be a great ~20 to 35 hours of fun!
I'm on my 3rd play through as I type. I think your being facetious?
I do want my games to feel like a action packed movie . Like a choose your own adventure. A long drawn out box office hit . 30 hours of action is fine by me. It keeps me engaged and emotionally invested.
I really want to like this type of game but it just drags on.
I loved every ac game but valhalla. I'm 200 plus hours in Ac valhalla and no where done. . It's just theses super long games just cut ,rinse repeat to keep games going . I played star feild another 4 hours totaling 40 hours so far. I'm a fair man and paid full price , so I want to give it a fair shot.
I keep playing now to get my money back. I feel obligated to play it. I feel this is more updated version of the outer worlds. I hate all the loading screens. Why is there a screen from room to room. Why is there a loading screen from the captians chair to the rest of the ship etc etc.
This is the outer words made a baby with mass effects. It's new with the sense of xbox 360.
I'm trying to like it and forcing myself too.
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I'm on my 3rd play through as I type. I think your being facetious?
I do want my games to feel like a action packed movie . Like a choose your own adventure. A long drawn out box office hit . 30 hours of action is fine by me. It keeps me engaged and emotionally invested.
I really want to like this type of game but it just drags on.
I loved every ac game but valhalla. I'm 200 plus hours in Ac valhalla and no where done. . It's just theses super long games just cut ,rinse repeat to keep games going . I played star feild another 4 hours totaling 40 hours so far. I'm a fair man and paid full price , so I want to give it a fair shot.
I keep playing now to get my money back. I feel obligated to play it. I feel this is more updated version of the outer worlds. I hate all the loading screens. Why is there a screen from room to room. Why is there a loading screen from the captians chair to the rest of the ship etc etc.
This is the outer words made a baby with mass effects. It's new with the sense of xbox 360.
I'm trying to like it and forcing myself too.
Sorry I meant Spiderman 2 and definitely not being facetious. I just know by what you said that you will enjoy that game far more.
For many, Spiderman 2 will provide more entertainment than Starfield and vice versa. However I am not one of thos AC Spiderman fans, people are allowed to like different games and that's great, it sucks you didn't like it and now playing feels like a chore to you.
If only you had a way to not purchase games fully on PC or Xbox and give them a shot for a while to see if they grab a hold of you, if only you could like say pay for a month of a service to try something and possibly other new games that come out in that month and save a bunch of money on a full priced game... Damn that would be a cool way to have access to games.
I don’t mind the Spiderman games but if Starfield is dated then Spiderman is downright ancient as it’s the blueprint dates back decades. Web slinging around Manhattan is fun but at its core it’s extremely repetitious even more than an AC game.
Sorry I meant Spiderman 2 and definitely not being facetious. I just know by what you said that you will enjoy that game far more.
For many, Spiderman 2 will provide more entertainment than Starfield and vice versa. However I am not one of thos AC Spiderman fans, people are allowed to like different games and that's great, it sucks you didn't like it and now playing feels like a chore to you.
If only you had a way to not purchase games fully on PC or Xbox and give them a shot for a while to see if they grab a hold of you, if only you could like say pay for a month of a service to try something and possibly other new games that come out in that month and save a bunch of money on a full priced game... Damn that would be a cool way to have access to games.
I beat morales in about 3 days at 100% .
I've had a xbox membership since day one. I like to buy my games out right because then I have access to playing them offline. I don't always have access to internet on my portable pcs when traveling.
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I don’t mind the Spiderman games but if Starfield is dated then Spiderman is downright ancient as it’s the blueprint dates back decades. Web slinging around Manhattan is fun but at its core it’s extremely repetitious even more than an AC game.
I get what your saying .
It just has that look to it. It graphically dosen't feel next gen . It's a slower pace. You can't exit or enter a room without a loading screen etc etc . It's very early xbox 360.
Everyone who likes Starfield is an XBOX fanboy and everyone who doesn’t like Starfield only likes Spider-man (which we will imply is of lesser quality and taste).
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Who are teh Xbox Guys? I have a XBox Series S and a PS5, I think Estrada has both too. Some of you are weird.
Also, I'm pumepd for Spider-Man 2, Haven't played Miles Morales yet but it came with my PS5 bundle. (none of this has anything to do with Starfield)
I have always owned the PS and Xbox side by side since the very beginning. I a 50 year old man for crying out loud and really don't have skin in the console warfare. I just like good games. There's an anti-Xbox slant here from several posters and sometimes I step in. Starfield is a great game. Not everyone has to like or love it but saying stuff like it feels like an early Xbox 360 game because you don't like it is going a little overboard.
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I’ve also always owned both consoles and find some of those takes amusing. Yes, I have north of 100 hours in to Starfield now not because it’s a great game, but because of my blind allegiance to Phil Spencer. Even though it’s game of the year for me more than likely, I also sunk a fair amount of time in to Playstation titles like Ragnarok and Forbidden West in 2023 and quite enjoyed both. The notion that my weighing of where these games stand relative to one another is skewed by which box I play them on is asinine.
The social media landscape is littered with this stuff now though unfortunately. The “console war” stuff draws engagement and money for those willing to stoke its fires.
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Starfield would have been a great game in 2012... Once they ironed out all of the bugs, UI glitches and implemented a basic level of quality of life improvements.
Had a great play session last night, the depth of the storylines, especially the side factions are incredible. Won't get into what story for spoilers but one of the most fun series of space battles in any game.
I’m still enjoying Starfield. It does the classic Bethesda stuff right. Fun main story, sprawling side quests, interesting random encounters, etc.
It also does all of the bad Bethesda stuff. “Dead eyed” NPC’s, comical persuasion system, floaty main character physics, poor inventory management, etc.
I think a lot of people thought Starfield would be a big leap forward for Bethesda given the time between single player projects, but in reality it’s just more Bethesda gameplay in a space setting.
As long as you like Bethesda games and that is your expectation you will have a good time.
Who are teh Xbox Guys? I have a XBox Series S and a PS5, I think Estrada has both too. Some of you are weird.
Also, I'm pumepd for Spider-Man 2, Haven't played Miles Morales yet but it came with my PS5 bundle. (none of this has anything to do with Starfield)
I didn't say the only people who like it are Xbox fanboys -- it's just never a surprise to see Since1984 and Erick Estrada super pumped about the latest Xbox exclusive. There certainly doesn't seem to be any Xbox fans who don't like it.
It's not just here either, look at any of the review aggregators. Half the perfect or near-perfect scores are Xbox fan sites and not a single one has scored it under a 9/10, despite it having a wide range of scores from other multi-platform focused sites.
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I also sunk a fair amount of time in to Playstation titles like Ragnarok and Forbidden West in 2023 and quite enjoyed both.
I mean, these are kind of crap games too so -- I don't think gaming overall would lose too much if Sony and especially Microsoft just disappeared at this point.
I’m still enjoying Starfield. It does the classic Bethesda stuff right. Fun main story, sprawling side quests, interesting random encounters, etc.
It also does all of the bad Bethesda stuff. “Dead eyed” NPC’s, comical persuasion system, floaty main character physics, poor inventory management, etc.
I think a lot of people thought Starfield would be a big leap forward for Bethesda given the time between single player projects, but in reality it’s just more Bethesda gameplay in a space setting.
As long as you like Bethesda games and that is your expectation you will have a good time.
The persuiasion system is a little bit better, if you listen to what they say in context before persuasion you can get a sense of which dialogue choices make more sense for that interaction, even if they might be riskier.
its definitely copy-paste Oblivion-Skyrim-Fallout lineage.
The thing that bothered me the most is 15 years ago in Oblivion/Skyrim is that I hated that I had to load between opening doors to go into interiors inside the city. 15 years later its the same in Starfield. I modded that out, modders found out if you have a fast enough PC and storage, you can sometimes load instananeously when going in an out of doors and even your ship. The black loading screen is actually programmed in! There are some janky artifacts when you do this since you will immediately load into the new area and because the game hasn't been designed to cache ahead, you'll see NPCs, environment, and lighting pop in but it's better than waiting for an arbitrary black screen staring at the loading circle.
Bethesda could easily have had a seamless world if they had designed the game to cache again to take advantage of modern systems with greater memory. But I'm 100% they manually coded in a black screen delay between locations because they had to abide by Microsoft's mandate that all games have feature parity between the Xbox Series X and Series S which is cripped in terms of ram.
-- I don't think gaming overall would lose too much if Sony and especially Microsoft just disappeared at this point.
