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Old 11-29-2022, 01:49 PM   #121
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If we lose again tonight and no call ups then I will be inching my way towards BT and Sutter being the #1 problem with the team.
Here's hoping they can handle the pressure you just put on them.
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:57 PM   #122
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I think we have a few games of tonight's lineup before any changes are made. Lindholm is playing better than he was to start. Huberdeau gets a chance to see if he can gel with him. Dube, Kadri and Mangiapane gelled well at the start of the year and they'll get a few games to get that chemistry going.

I think Darryl has plans for his lineup and has played with the lines to get everyone going. He likely had a few options to try out before calling up Phillips. If Phillips is still doing well in a week but the Flames are still struggling to score then maybe we'll see him.

He didn't earn the spot out of camp though, so there was something that coaching/management didn't like from him. I am not now nor have I ever been convinced that Phillips will be an NHL player. But I want to see if he can prove me wrong, and for that matter the coaches and management too.
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:22 PM   #123
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Ok, it was 'a' Sutter
Just a point of order on the whole "Sutter" thing regarding Martin St. Louis...

As I remember it, GM Al Coates was high on the player as was working to re-sign him before he got replaced by Craig Button. Button decided to let St. Louis walk.

There's your true villain...
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Absolutely a travesty if he doesn’t get the call.

Think about the psyche of all of the Flames young players and prospects if he doesn’t get the call?

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Old 11-29-2022, 06:18 PM   #125
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Old 11-29-2022, 06:37 PM   #126
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Just a point of order on the whole "Sutter" thing regarding Martin St. Louis...

As I remember it, GM Al Coates was high on the player as was working to re-sign him before he got replaced by Craig Button. Button decided to let St. Louis walk.

There's your true villain...
He also passed through two expansion drafts and multiple times on waivers...it's not like anyone else saw a star in him
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Old 11-29-2022, 06:42 PM   #127
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He also passed through two expansion drafts and multiple times on waivers...it's not like anyone else saw a star in him
Maybe not, and that is the point.
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Maybe not, and that is the point.
I would give him a shot but it's highly unlikely he is another St.Louis...there is a reason we are going back over 20 years for an example.

There are tons of big time AHL scorers that never make the jump
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Old 11-29-2022, 07:12 PM   #129
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I would give him a shot but it's highly unlikely he is another St.Louis...there is a reason we are going back over 20 years for an example.

There are tons of big time AHL scorers that never make the jump
Agreed, hopefully he gets a good opportunity, and we can find out what we have. He is doing all he can to make the jump.
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:30 PM   #130
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It's not like Dube or Mangiapane are doing anything right now, what's the harm in giving Phillips a look in one of their spots?

If anything just let the team know that the status quo is borderline garbage.

Reward Phillips, punish Dube/Mangiapane. Seems like a win/win that has zero downside.
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:33 PM   #131
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After seeing last nights game, I finally like the top two lines. I also see no downside in putting Ruzicka as the 4C (with powerplay duty), and making a third line of Coleman-Backlund-Phillips.

Every line was going to the goal in the offensive zone last night except for the fourth line. Ruzicka would fix that in the first shift.
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Only one way to find out, and it's not by leaving him down there forever. The Flames' pro scouting department has more than shown over the years that it's not infallible by a long shot.
You should send your resume to Brad.
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Old 11-30-2022, 06:29 PM   #133
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He looks great so far this year and I feel like the Flames are taking notice despite not giving him the promotion to the big squad. Being in the same building helps!

I still think we'd like need an injury to one of the RWs though for there to be room for him at all. Then the others bump up and we stick Phillips with Ruzicka/Backlund or something.
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Old 11-30-2022, 07:45 PM   #134
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He looks great so far this year and I feel like the Flames are taking notice despite not giving him the promotion to the big squad. Being in the same building helps!

I still think we'd like need an injury to one of the RWs though for there to be room for him at all. Then the others bump up and we stick Phillips with Ruzicka/Backlund or something.
We've had injuries where they could shuffle him in for some games and haven't.
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Old 11-30-2022, 09:16 PM   #135
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We've had injuries where they could shuffle him in for some games and haven't.
This season, 9 forwards have played every game. The only injuries to the forwards were Huberdeau (3 games) and Ritchie (2 games). Neither was out of action for the 1 week required for a player to be placed on IR.

The other wrinkle is that both of those injuries occurred while Stone was already out, and they chose to recall 2 defencemen when Stone went down, which meant they had no extra roster space. They could have only recalled someone if one of the injured players was put on IR, and neither injury was severe enough for that.
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Since we're throwing our line ups/ lines, need some fresh air and life into the line up, Don't know what other option there is to get Mangiapane going?

Huberdeau- Lindholm- Mangiapane
Pelletier- Kadri- Toffoli
Ruzicka- Backlund- Phillips
Coleman- Lewis- Dube

Ritchie, Rooney, Lucic all useless at this point, enjoy the popcorn.
Ritchie has not been useless. Rooney has. Lucic is getting there.

If the Flames aren’t going to give Phillips a shot this season he’s going to be gone in free agency I would assume. They should at least try and get something for him.
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:59 AM   #137
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Just a point of order on the whole "Sutter" thing regarding Martin St. Louis...

As I remember it, GM Al Coates was high on the player as was working to re-sign him before he got replaced by Craig Button. Button decided to let St. Louis walk.

There's your true villain...
He actually made him walk. Craig bought him out. One of the reasons why he’s never had another GM. Buying out a hall of famer before he starts his hall of fame trajectory isn’t a bad look, it’s a moronically horrible look.
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He actually made him walk. Craig bought him out. One of the reasons why he’s never had another GM. Buying out a hall of famer before he starts his hall of fame trajectory isn’t a bad look, it’s a moronically horrible look.
I remember watching him on the third line here, playing with scrubs. Every time he had the puck, I was like holy cow this guy is gooood.

...and then he was gone. Replaced by yet another big-body-but-can't-skate-pass-or-shoot western Canadian kid.
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Here's hoping they can handle the pressure you just put on them.
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Per AHL release, Phillips is also the league's player of the month
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