Gambling commercials and the NHL

[Snuffleupagus]

Minority view here it seems but sports gambling is awesome, it's a lot more fun than playing silly 20 million to 1 odds lotteries, scratch tickets and casino bandits. it's pretty simple if you don't like gambling don't bet, if you do bet only bet what you can afford to loose.

Do we have a thread for when the government pushes commercials and billboards for lotto-max and 649 down our throats?

[Itse]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

In about 20 years there will be documentaries about how this was allowed for a period of time and how much it damaged both the sport, but much moreso the poor saps who lost everything.

Heavy social engineering to take everything from you.

It'll probably end when it turns out a cup winner was fraudulent. Refs, players, who can say? Huge financial stakes.

Match fixing, at least when done by professionals, is almost always targeted at relatively low-profile games at lower league levels.

It's just so much easier and cheaper to get players to throw a game when they're not that well paid, and the match is kinda meaningless anyway. I would expect same applies to refs. Lower tier soccer is a good place for match fixing in Europe, because it has large amounts of dedicated fans, despite that lack of national attention.

That said, the massively long regular seasons in North American sports make the top tier more attractive there. A midseason weekday match between two bottom-to-mid tier teams... who really cares?

A ref giving a nonsense penalty in the 3rd with the game being close... fans will rant about it a little and move on. It would be so trivial to pull off by a ref with the self restraint to not go overboard. So I 100% expect it's already happening, and has been happening for a while.

It's however easier to get away with it in lower tiers of sports, because there's fewer super-HD cameras pointed at you and way less people enthusiastically talking about a game and analyzing it afterwards.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Minority view here it seems but sports gambling is awesome, it's a lot more fun than playing silly 20 million to 1 odds lotteries, scratch tickets and casino bandits. it's pretty simple if you don't like gambling don't bet, if you do bet only bet what you can afford to loose.

Do we have a thread for when the government pushes commercials and billboards for lotto-max and 649 down our throats?

Sure, wasn’t it not available a little before with filling out circles in a gas station but without it being thrown down our throats every commercial
Break and now literally sewn into the jerseys?

I never listened to the fan 960 and they used to spend a half hour each day telling me what numbers for the 649 I should choose and from what gas station I should pick them up from.



With betting, they make 90% of their money from 10% of their clients. They prey on addicts. It is no different from tobacco or alcohol which was removed from being allowed to be advertised from them.

It’s disgusting how they are normalizing it for the next generation, it’s absolutely dispicable. Using a game where children look up to hero’s and advertising to them gambling each and every second, it absolutely disgusts me.

Lives are ruined by this. It has ruined professional sports, there was a reason it was illegal, and somehow before, people still watched sports.


Absolutely dispicable

[SutterBrother]

Relevant Rolling Stone article from yesterday.

Is legal sports gambling creating cheaters or exposing a long held secret?

As the 2006 FIFA World Cup drew near, the sport of soccer was battling what was often described as an “epidemic” of match fixing all over the globe. There were billions of dollars being bet on soccer in regulated and unregulated markets alike, on nearly every continent. Banning gambling on the sport wasn’t a realistic solution. Instead, FIFA implemented integrity monitoring that utilized betting data from all over the world. Analysis of that data would give them an even greater leg-up on cheaters than what savvy bookmakers and gamblers who monitored the markets had. They didn’t just reach out to regulated and licensed bookmakers, they even convinced unregulated so-called “black market” bookmakers to sign on and cooperate. They wouldn’t be able to stop criminals attempting to fix matches, but they could detect where it was happening and tip off law enforcement in those jurisdictions. As one might expect, once the technology to detect match-fixing improved, the number of cases detected skyrocketed.

The same thing is happening in the United States today. The spread of regulated sports betting across the country has led to the implementation of not only a number of new state regulatory agencies to monitor the sportsbooks, but also integrity monitoring systems similar to what FIFA developed in the 2000s, where data from regulated sportsbooks is shared and analyzed for irregularities (offshore and unregulated sportsbooks do not participate). It was precisely this type of monitoring that enabled law enforcement to catch Toronto Raptor Jontay Porter and the gambling syndicate he was working with last year, as well as Miami Heat’s Terry Rozier and former Cleveland Cavalier Damon Jones last week. (Rozier has denied any wrongdoing, as has Hall of Fame player and Portland Trail Blazers coach Chauncey Billups, who was arrested for his alleged involvement in a related poker cheating ring and is widely believed to be one of the unnamed co-conspirators in the FBI’s sports betting case.) Porter has already been banned from basketball for life and faces years in prison from criminal charges he pled guilty to.

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[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Minority view here it seems but sports gambling is awesome, it's a lot more fun than playing silly 20 million to 1 odds lotteries, scratch tickets and casino bandits. it's pretty simple if you don't like gambling don't bet, if you do bet only bet what you can afford to loose.

Gambing is awesome, no one is saying it isn't. Doing drugs is awesome and legit fun. Shooting guns is f'n fun, and I'm not a gun person at all. If you're argument is "awesome!' then yeah you win, but that's not the argument and it's a childish point to make.

Do we have a thread for when the government pushes commercials and billboards for lotto-max and 649 down our throats?

We don't but if you think it's an issue start the conversation.