I would say you need some work. I suspect there are lots of people who have a basic 72 hour bugout bag at ready. If you're not there, start there.
I would suggest you start with the FEMA website to get your head around basic preps. I would recommend some reading to understand what you're trying to take on. Here's a basic book. Know what you need to keep yourself alive and then you should start thinking about other plans. Building a shelter is putting the cart way before the horse. After putting together a plan you may figure out that you're better off going somewhere else (the mountains) and better off investing in a cabin at some remote location. The bunker scenario is EOTW type stuff.
If you don't bug out before the event you better be prepared to dig in for a long period of time after the event. Travel in those scenarios is extremely dangerous, so it is wise not to do it. Be prepared to ride things out if you aren't going to get out of harm's way to begin with. That means having the appropriate resources and will to begin with.
What's going to power that CPAP machine? What are you using for power? Do you have a solar power generator that can at least keep that CPAP machine running and keep you live at night? The grid is likely to be out, s you better have a prep for that.
I think you're looking for a saferoom or a man-cave more so than a bunker.
Emphasis on starting point. Like how even their top end shelter states "basic air" and "tie-in to existing septic" which are two of the biggest concerns about a bunker. You need clean filtered air, you need access to clean potable water, you need some form of power generation, and you need some way of moving waste away from your living space. Each is a very expensive consideration and needs to be thought about. Building a bunker is not just about digging a hole to live in, you need to think about all other concerns including extra space to store all the things you need to survive for a few years underground (food, water, poo-tickets, etc.). Shelters are sketchy as hell.
Yeah, I'm not looking to turning building my bunker into a fataing lifestyle, so, no, I'm not going to be fataing around with any of the stuff you suggested (not that I don't appreciate it). I plan to #### into one of these and fling it out the hatch of the shelter, so I'm certainly not worried about "septic tie-ins".
IDK, I think you're missing the point here. It's like I'm telling you I want to buy a Mustang and you're telling me about all the things I'll need to run a Formula 1 team.
I just want a bunker to fata around in and maybe survive a minor terror attack or medium-sized natural disaster.
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IDK, I think you're missing the point here. It's like I'm telling you I want to buy a Mustang and you're telling me about all the things I'll need to run a Formula 1 team.
I just want a bunker to fata around in and maybe survive a minor terror attack or medium-sized natural disaster.
Your OP identified "bunker/bomb shelter" as your desire so I went to worstcase scenario (bomb) and thought from there. Was just trying to let you know what you should think about before taking this on. You know, kind of like letting you know that should you buy a Mustang you should think about all the things associated with it (gas mileage, insurance, maintenance, functionality, viability in your situation, etc.) before making that big investment. But yeah, I missed the point. I wasn't thinking that someone would actually build a bunker just to "#### around in." My bad.
Still love this plan. So what’s the first step in getting this started? Can you just buy a shipping container and pay some off the clock construction guy to backhoe up the hell out of your yard? This is gonna be awesome. Probably should start before the ground freezes I’d think.
Your OP identified "bunker/bomb shelter" as your desire so I went to worstcase scenario (bomb) and thought from there. Was just trying to let you know what you should think about before taking this on. You know, kind of like letting you know that should you buy a Mustang you should think about all the things associated with it (gas mileage, insurance, maintenance, functionality, viability in your situation, etc.) before making that big investment. But yeah, I missed the point. I wasn't thinking that someone would actually build a bunker just to "#### around in." My bad.
Haha, all good. I appreciate the thought you're putting into it. Think more of a princess bunker. A pseudo bunker, if you will. Like, a guy that jacks up his truck with a hockey puck lift kit. Or somebody who puts a K&N air filter in their Civic and can 'feel the gains'.
It's technically a bunker. It might help a little. But mostly it's just kind of cool to me and I'll easily be able to convince myself of its integrity/strength that may or may not exist. A false sense of security is much more comforting than no sense of security.
Anyway, overthinking this will make it lame. Just give me a bunker made out of whatever (galvanized steel silo-type stuff, maybe?). I think the earth above it offers more protection than the structure itself, but I'm not going to look any deeper into it than that. This'll be my little clubhouse and it'll be so fataing rad you'll all be jealous.
Everything you say about your life screams "park me directly under the blast zone and vaporize me." You do understand that you won't have all the luxuries you've obviously become accustomed to? There won't be any TV. There won't be any luxury foods. You'll be living for years in a buried concrete crypt, forced to live on canned and dehydrated foods, and living in your own filth. The resources you take in that bunker are the only resources you will have access to. No running water. No gas for heating/cooking. Limited sewage handing. Limited air handling. You will have to become an expert at maintaining your life support systems and declogging the many systems that bring air in and your #### out. Are you really prepared for that? Do you honestly think you have the prepper mentality?
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Anyway, overthinking this will make it lame. Just give me a bunker made out of whatever (galvanized steel silo-type stuff, maybe?). I think the earth above it offers more protection than the structure itself, but I'm not going to look any deeper into it than that. This'll be my little clubhouse and it'll be so fataing rad you'll all be jealous.
Literally just bury a sea can and call it a day
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Oh, and another thing about acreage living: there are too many dirt roads. I can't handle having a dirty car. You can't keep your wheels clean and your car becomes a rattling POS in like one month driving over washboard roads. Again...I'd rather die.
I dunno. I like urban living more than acreage living, but if I won the lottery, an off grid acreage/cottage with electricity, water etc. sounds like a fun place to visit occasionally to do some fun outdoor stuff that you can't do in the city.
I'd love to have an area I can store toys and do stupid likes like driving around on ATVs and shooting at each other with airsoft guns.
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Because he sounded like he was serious about building a bunker?
Because there will still be fallout and radiation in the surrounding environment. Estimations for the environment to rebound after a nuclear event is two years. Unless you're okay with stirring up fallout and potential exposure to radioactive contaminants in the environment, plan on living in your shelter for two or more years. It's not like there is any huge benefit to being ground hog out of the hole.
Obviously if you overthink this scenario, he survives with a higher level of comfort for the 2-3 days for the major fall out and then runs out to find a cool car to loot a life time supply of licorice to enjoy in like Canmore or something.
But in reality, he's going to build a massive oversized shed or cold room that will be converted into a clubhouse if he ain't storing tools and equipment there. There he can get high and drunk with his buddies and watch post apocalyptic movies without worrying about leaving a mess behind.
Anyway, overthinking this will make it lame. Just give me a bunker made out of whatever (galvanized steel silo-type stuff, maybe?). I think the earth above it offers more protection than the structure itself, but I'm not going to look any deeper into it than that. This'll be my little clubhouse and it'll be so fataing rad you'll all be jealous.
Construction wise, I think it's easier to navigate if you consider it a partially buried heavy duty shed or a landscape integrated garage for smaller vehicles. Hilarity wise (yeah I'm immature), I've driven past this business on the way to Balzac and I've always wondered what it would be like to buy all sorts of crazy #### from these guys and put it on the acreage. I could build strange structures like trusses on an acreage with some of the stuff they sell. If I built a bunker clubhouse like Sliver, I'd cover it in Uncle Weiner swag as much as possible.
Apparently there's smaller sized "office containers" for around $5K that might be easier to transport and connect together. They might be easier to transport and put in position than a typical full sized sea container.
Buy a new one and rust-proof it? I had a sprayed bed-liner in a truck once that was quite thick and rubbery, so things wouldn't slide at all. Seemed like good stuff.
It’s more likely to be used by teenagers as an F shack so it’s even funnier. C’mon over my dad’s home but we can get freaky in the booty bunker. Or local hooligans breaking in to do the drugs
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If you buried it straight up, perhaps. But it would take a while to rust, no?
Spray with bed liner/foam/paint/cover in some form of a composite etc. and I presume it'd last much longer, no?
IIRC, Sliver has some form of a manufacturing company.
I wonder if he could justify buying a laser rust removal machine for repairing parts or cleaning or whatever. He could have fun cleaning the rust off an old sea can prior to spraying an oxidization proof layer on it. ####, I could imagine that would be just as entertaining as a variety of other forms of entertainment. Except it's that satisfaction in seeing the item goes from rusty to awesome looking. Knowing certain people, I assume someone would absolutely try and light a pre-roll with the laser.
I've only read the first few posts in this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been covered, and I have no data. But regarding Mulls concerns of devaluing. I am fairly certain this would add value to the house overall, maybe just not enough to recoup your investment. Extra sqft, unique features... your house will be worth more. But I suspect the expense of installation will be substantial, increased risk of water seepage into your basement.. there will be problems that come with this.
