2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Murph]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And very few cup contenders would want Gibson. He isn’t a starter on a cup contender and invariably they are set at starting goal (unless you think the Leafs are contenders). And he makes way too much for a backup (even at 50% retention it would be a lot).

The Leafs are cup contenders. They took the Lightning to 7 games in a very tight series.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And very few cup contenders would want Gibson. He isn’t a starter on a cup contender and invariably they are set at starting goal (unless you think the Leafs are contenders). And he makes way too much for a backup (even at 50% retention it would be a lot).

Going to have to strongly disagree with you there.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And very few cup contenders would want Gibson. He isn’t a starter on a cup contender and invariably they are set at starting goal (unless you think the Leafs are contenders). And he makes way too much for a backup (even at 50% retention it would be a lot).

I'm not so sure about that. I think he's an upgrade on a lot of contenders including the Avs, Wild, Blues, Panthers, and Leafs. When the Ducks were good (they were on the downside at the beginning of his career and slowly his rock bottom) it's hard to ignore how good his numbers were. His stats have taken a hit the past three seasons but the team in front of him has been really bad. At 28 he's still got up to 7 good years left.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And very few cup contenders would want Gibson. He isn’t a starter on a cup contender and invariably they are set at starting goal (unless you think the Leafs are contenders). And he makes way too much for a backup (even at 50% retention it would be a lot).

The leafs are every bit as much a cup contender as the Flames were this year.

[dino7c]

People are thinking of prime Gibson...he hasn't been that lately

guy really hasn't been good lately

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People are thinking of prime Gibson...he hasn't been that lately

guy really hasn't been good lately

His dip in numbers align perfectly with the dip in his team.

People are watching him, not numbers.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not so sure about that. I think he's an upgrade on a lot of contenders including the Avs, Wild, Blues, Panthers, and Leafs. When the Ducks were good (they were on the downside at the beginning of his career and slowly his rock bottom) it's hard to ignore how good his numbers were. His stats have taken a hit the past three seasons but the team in front of him has been really bad. At 28 he's still got up to 7 good years left.

You are living in the past with Gibson. And when I say “set” I mean that even if their starter isn’t top shelf, he’s signed long term. Bobrovsky has four more years at $10M with an NTC. Binnington is 5x$6M. And even if Kuemper isn’t Vasilevsky or Shesterkin, he’s better than Gibson. Now Minnie and the Leafs are options. But I don’t think you go cup hunting with Minnie. And they still have Talbot and may re-sign MAF.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

His dip in numbers align perfectly with the dip in his team.

People are watching him, not numbers.

Are they though? He wasn't very good last season

People think the Oilers play better D than the Ducks?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People are thinking of prime Gibson...he hasn't been that lately

guy really hasn't been good lately

Most of the time you’re goalie is only as good as the team. Just look at Campbell, Talbot, Andersen to a point (did well in Carolina over Toronto).

I think Gibson’s numbers would return to where he used to be when put on a competent team and not going through a rebuild. The Ducks probably view him as expendable with Dostal in the fold.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

His dip in numbers align perfectly with the dip in his team.

People are watching him, not numbers.

Kuemper put up good numbers in Phoenix. Ditto with Markstrom in Van.

Why trade for a guy making $6 million for forever if he's a goalie that is reliant on having a good team in front of him?

[Harry Lime]

Any thoughts on the Kappo Kakko situation? The scratch in game six he discovered on the line-up card, and no one spoke to him before or after. Weird move by Gallant. But he does have a good forecheck, plays with speed and defensively pretty sound. History of high offensive potential, although hasn't shown it the last two years from the bottom six in New York.

Lots of rumors that if he makes it to July 13th, he will be offersheeted, so NYR might be looking to trade him for a return before that.

Realistic contract is a two year bridge at 3M/per, but an offer sheet would probably be one year in the 4.5M range. I doubt he makes it to an offersheet, but an interesting name to have in the market.

The fact that Kravtsov signed and is coming back from the KHL, the Rangers might feel that they have a replacement in house.

[MrMike]

It would have to be a stupid contract like the Kokaniemi that Carolina did to Montreal. Still don’t think that player is worth it for the contract required and the assets to give up.

Better off trading for the guy to keep his AAV lower

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Kuemper put up good numbers in Phoenix. Ditto with Markstrom in Van.

Why trade for a guy making $6 million for forever if he's a goalie that is reliant on having a good team in front of him?

Maybe because they think they have a good team?

Some goalies are not even good on good teams

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Murph

The Leafs are cup contenders. They took the Lightning to 7 games in a very tight series.

Leafs should swing a trade for Price.

For Nylander straight up, Montreal retains salary to make the money wash out (fine tune the details if you must).

Price is probably the only goalie in the league who wouldn’t be phased by that market, given he spent his entire career in the only place that’s more insane than Toronto.

Contingent on a full medical, of course.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by MrMike

It would have to be a stupid contract like the Kokaniemi that Carolina did to Montreal. Still don’t think that player is worth it for the contract required and the assets to give up.

Better off trading for the guy to keep his AAV lower

Kokaniemi's contract going forward isn't bad. $4.8M.

The initial contract was specifically designed to force the Habs to say no. It was a smart bit of business. The success of it hinges on if he works out as a player, but in terms of how they handled the offer sheet to maximize getting the player - it was pretty brilliant.

And now they have him locked up at a reasonable rate.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Leafs should swing a trade for Price.

For Nylander straight up, Montreal retains salary to make the money wash out (fine tune the details if you must).

Price is probably the only goalie in the league who wouldn’t be phased by that market, given he spent his entire career in the only place that’s more insane than Toronto.

Contingent on a full medical, of course.

Wow that deal would drive both teams fans in to a frenzy! I like it!

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Leafs should swing a trade for Price.

For Nylander straight up, Montreal retains salary to make the money wash out (fine tune the details if you must).

Price is probably the only goalie in the league who wouldn’t be phased by that market, given he spent his entire career in the only place that’s more insane than Toronto.

Contingent on a full medical, of course.

You're on drugs.

[GioforPM]

Among other things the notion that Price wouldn’t be phased by something is a little off. He’s struggled with emotional well being and I imagine the pressure played a part.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

You're on drugs.

Are you not?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Among other things the notion that Price wouldn’t be phased by something is a little off. He’s struggled with emotional well being and I imagine the pressure played a part.

If you’re able to be the goalie of the Montreal Canadiens for the better part of 20 years, you’re pretty mentally tough.

It clearly exhausted him having to carry teams that were nothing without him.

This Leafs squad would be the best non-TC group he’s ever been a part of.