[Rumour] DeBrusk has asked for a trade. Kypreos: Flames are among teams interested

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm reading Kane as Patrick, Not Evander. Maybe I'm wrong. Evanders contract is 7.5 all the way through it isn't it?

Lebrun speculated that there may be a 3rd team willing to retain 50% on top of San Jose retaining 50% (…something I thought couldn’t be done, but has been done in recent years).

7M cut in half to 3.5, then cut in half to 1.75

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Scenario 1: Flames acquire Debrusk, acquisition cost ends up being a 2nd round pick.
Scenario 2: Flames acquire Kane, acquisition cost ends up being a 1st and a 2nd (and Kane's salary comes in at $1.75M AAV for this season and the next 3)

Which would you do?

Scenario 1 not even close. I want nothing to do with Kane regardless of the cap but especially at the cost of a 1st and 2nd

[Classic_Sniper]

I could see the Flames trying to swap Dube for Debrusk. A change of scenery for both players. Dube has found himself on the misfit line struggling to gain traction. I don’t know much about Debrusk, but if roughly a dozen teams are in on him, then the acquisition cost won’t be cheap.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I could see the Flames trying to swap Dube for Debrusk. A change of scenery for both players. Dube has found himself on the misfit line struggling to gain traction. I don’t know much about Debrusk, but if roughly a dozen teams are in on him, then the acquisition cost won’t be cheap.

DeBrusk-Monahan-Pitlick huh?

Ouch.

[Heavy Jack]

I’d rather keep Dube, he has more run way at this point IMO.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Makes zippo sense to acquire this guy unless we are unloading Monahan, which still makes no sense because Monahan is the better player.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Makes zippo sense to acquire this guy unless we are unloading Monahan, which still makes no sense because Monahan is the better player.

Plus I don’t think the Bruins could absorb the cap difference so retention would be required, unless another player came with Debrusk.

[cowtown75]

While I'm intrigued by the idea of getting DeBrusk, but I do not see a fit here on the team at LW and he doesn't move the needle enough for me to be giving up decent draft picks.

[dammage79]

Evander Kane is a Pariah. No way in H.E.Double Hockey Sticks should he be an option for any team. Especially the Flames.

There's never been a time in his career where he hasn't been an issue for the organization he plays for.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Makes zippo sense to acquire this guy unless we are unloading Monahan, which still makes no sense because Monahan is the better player.

I don’t know how it wouldn’t make sense. It’d be the easiest way to re-jigger the 3rd line without creating giant holes like say, the 3rd line center position. At best, Monahan and Debrusk find some chemistry and the 3rd line is fixed.

What wouldn’t make sense is for the Bruins to trade a younger player with plenty more years of control and high upside for Monahan’s cap hit that’ll just destroy their cap structure next season. The Bruins have a dozen other teams calling in on him, which means the Flames would have to beat all the other offers and Monahan ain’t getting that done.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Plus I don’t think the Bruins could absorb the cap difference so retention would be required, unless another player came with Debrusk.

Bruins have 2.2M in cap space. Flames might need to eat 500k on Monahan but I could see that being a no go.

I saw on HF the Bruins want a RW or LHD for Debrusk and I figure we can give them both.

Zadorov+Pitlick+2nd
For
Debrusk+3rd

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Dube-Monahan-Debrusk
Lucic-Richardson-Lewis

Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Tanev
Valimaki-Gudbransen

Markstrom
Vlader


That third line is intriguing to me

[GranteedEV]

Monahan for DeBrusk actually makes sense for both teams IF Treliving is willing to bet on Dube as a centre.

Boston gets an offensive minded centre to pair with Taylor Hall in the absense of Krejci, and push Coyle to a shutdown role.

Calgary gets a 3rd line with a bit more of an identity, and a pending (restricted) free agent so they'll have more flexibility this offseason to re-sign the Big 4.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Bruins have 2.2M in cap space. Flames might need to eat 500k on Monahan but I could see that being a no go.

I saw on HF the Bruins want a RW or LHD for Debrusk and I figure we can give them both.

Zadorov+Pitlick+2nd
For
Debrusk+3rd

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Dube-Monahan-Debrusk
Lucic-Richardson-Lewis

Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Tanev
Valimaki-Gudbransen

Markstrom
Vlader


That third line is intriguing to me

I think Sutter would see that as a defensive downgrade. Pitlick is underrated here because of his lack of offence and Debrusk in his place would drive Sutter nuts. Valimaki is sitting behind Zadorov for a reason, and it’s defence.

[Classic_Sniper]

If Treliving can swing a Monahan for Debrusk trade, I’d build a statue of him in my house. But alas, there are a dozen other teams in the mix who can easily offer more than a Monahan.

I still think there’s some delusion over Monahan’s value. Treliving had a hard time finding suitors for him in the summer, he’s not getting any calls about him right now. He’s clearly available based on where he sits on the team’s depth chart, but only crickets we hear. Bo Horvat on the other hand is apparently receiving tons of interest.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Boston gets an offensive minded centre to pair with Taylor Hall in the absense of Krejci, and push Coyle to a shutdown role.

Key word there being minded. He may want to contribute offensively, but he can't.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

Key word there being minded. He may want to contribute offensively, but he can't.

He seems to be contributing just fine offensively to our #1PP unit

Taylor Hall can carry him 5v5. Dillon Dube cannot.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

He seems to be contributing just fine offensively to our #1PP unit

Taylor Hall can carry him 5v5. Dillon Dube cannot.

Yeah, I think that would work for Boston. Not sure the Flames want Debrusk that much though, and may not think he improves the 3rd line much at all.

[calumniate]

Yeah, whole lotta blah hearing Dube mentioned so many times here. A subtle line swap with him away from pitlick (even Lucic), will do him a lot of good. He's on a great contract and came in as the fittest flame.

[Jbo]

Imagine throwing a grenade like Kane into the locker room of a successful team like the Flames this year

[Lanny_McDonald]

I think the Flames go after Debrusk to add some scoring from the third line. Pitlick isn't the answer and should be on the 4th line or a guy that can float in the event of injuries. Debrusk-Monahan-Dube seems like an interesting mix that could score given the chance. I'd try and move Valimaki to the Bruins in exchange. With Mackey, Kinnval, and Kuznetsov in the wings, losing Valimaki may not be such a hard hit to take.