02-01-2021, 05:34 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Gorton says DeAngelo had been upset since being scratched for first game. At some point, Gorton told DeAngelo if there was one more issue, he'd be removed from the team. That happened after Saturday's skirmish with Georgiev.
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
Gorton says DeAngelo "wasn't able to move on" from being healthy scratch for gms 2+3 of season after unsportsmanlike penalty. "I told him if his name came up in anything at all that he would be on waivers ...
"I felt like I had to stay true to my word, the organization's word."
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
President John Davidson said DeAngelo's social media comments were not a factor.
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I could pretty much paraphrase this to be about parenting my 4 year old.
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She wasn't able to move on after being told no. I told her if she misbehaved again at anything at all that she would be going home. I felt that I had to stay true to my word, my family's word.
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02-01-2021, 05:36 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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I will very seriously judge any team that acquires this meat puppet. Let him fade into the obscure.
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02-01-2021, 06:00 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Guy had 53 points last year. What a waste of talent. He’s done in the NHL, can’t see anyone taking a chance on him. He’s a good player but not good enough that his talent outweighs the mountains of negativity associated with him.
Good riddance.
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02-01-2021, 06:01 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Guy had 53 points last year. What a waste of talent. He’s done in the NHL, can’t see anyone taking a chance on him. He’s a good player but not good enough that his talent outweighs the mountains of negativity associated with him.
Good riddance.
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A more assholish version of Sean Avery wasn’t really needed.
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02-02-2021, 07:28 AM
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#125
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by VilleN
Just a question to possibly save everyone’s time: Do you believe that Trump had the election stolen from him?
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Just to save everyone's time: Can you take this political crap to the board designated for it? Thanks.
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02-02-2021, 07:59 AM
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#126
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I’m reading between the lines here... but that is a veeeerrrrrrryyyyy short leash. Seemingly specific to that individual for other reasons.
“Couldn’t move on from being scratched”? So, he was mad? That was enough to throw $9mil away? Not to mention, we’ve seen fights between teammates lots of times before.
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The guy was a constant PR nightmare for the team with his Twitter shennanigans. That is somewhat forgiveable if you're a major contributor on the ice. DeAngelo stopped being a contributor on the ice, all the other stuff started catching up to him, and the fight was just the cherry on top to seal his fate. It's not that complicated and doesnt require much reading between the lines.
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02-02-2021, 08:37 AM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Just funny to see the Ranger all high and mighty now, when they singed the guy to a new contract just a few short months ago.
They already knew what they had in the guy and they still threw money at him.
Hope the Rangers are on the hook for every penny.
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02-02-2021, 08:51 AM
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#128
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
The guy was a constant PR nightmare for the team with his Twitter shennanigans. That is somewhat forgiveable if you're a major contributor on the ice. DeAngelo stopped being a contributor on the ice, all the other stuff started catching up to him, and the fight was just the cherry on top to seal his fate. It's not that complicated and doesnt require much reading between the lines.
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Yeah that’s kinda my point, it’s not because he couldn’t get over being scratched.
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02-02-2021, 08:52 AM
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#129
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by GordonBlue
Just funny to see the Ranger all high and mighty now, when they singed the guy to a new contract just a few short months ago.
They already knew what they had in the guy and they still threw money at him.
Hope the Rangers are on the hook for every penny.
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His buyout is actually only 1/3 of his pay due to age, and carries a cap hit of ~$800k for two years.
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02-02-2021, 08:53 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
The guy was a constant PR nightmare for the team with his Twitter shennanigans. That is somewhat forgiveable if you're a major contributor on the ice. DeAngelo stopped being a contributor on the ice, all the other stuff started catching up to him, and the fight was just the cherry on top to seal his fate. It's not that complicated and doesnt require much reading between the lines.
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this is it. I remember a line that an NFL GM once dropped regarding potential off-the-field concerns of prospects in the draft: "If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3 in the 40 yard dash, we'd probably diagnose it as an eating disorder". It's not that extreme in the NHL, but some teams will probably forgive those headaches when the guy is a stud and helps you win. Once that goes out of the window, it becomes a problem.
NY shouldn't in any way, shape or form be seen as a beacon of morality here. If DeAngelo still performed as he did in the past, they'd happily sweep any off-the-ice altercations under the carpet.
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02-02-2021, 08:54 AM
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#131
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Just to save everyone's time: Can you take this political crap to the board designated for it? Thanks.
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Fair enough - that was out of line and I should not have posted it on this forum.
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02-02-2021, 09:03 AM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
this is it. I remember a line that an NFL GM once dropped regarding potential off-the-field concerns of prospects in the draft: "If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3 in the 40 yard dash, we'd probably diagnose it as an eating disorder". It's not that extreme in the NHL, but some teams will probably forgive those headaches when the guy is a stud and helps you win. Once that goes out of the window, it becomes a problem.
NY shouldn't in any way, shape or form be seen as a beacon of morality here. If DeAngelo still performed as he did in the past, they'd happily sweep any off-the-ice altercations under the carpet.
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Well maybe and maybe not. There is a point at which teams will consider someone too much of a distraction, or just so tiresome to work with that even the people with some pull like coaches are completely fed up with them.
DeAngelo sounds like that kind of a guy. The only people defending him seem to be people that don't personally know him.
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02-02-2021, 09:14 AM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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yeah maybe not. But they happily took back Avery back then (Gorton was already a part of the front office at the time) and they didn't seem to mind DeAngelo when he scored 53 points last season (they did re-sign him, after all).
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02-02-2021, 10:07 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, but the word was they were already trying to trade him long before and perhaps thought "53 point 25 year old d-man on a 2 year deal making 4.8 should be attractive to some teams", and signed him to that with the intent still being to trade him.
I do think he's tradeable, if the Rangers will take a boat anchor contract back. But I think it seems far more likely that they just send him home to sit on his couch and buy him out at the end of the year?
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02-02-2021, 02:58 PM
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#135
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, but the word was they were already trying to trade him long before and perhaps thought "53 point 25 year old d-man on a 2 year deal making 4.8 should be attractive to some teams", and signed him to that with the intent still being to trade him.
I do think he's tradeable, if the Rangers will take a boat anchor contract back. But I think it seems far more likely that they just send him home to sit on his couch and buy him out at the end of the year?
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Did I hear Skinner's contract being mentioned?
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02-02-2021, 03:25 PM
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#136
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Strathmore
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Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
He’d fit in up north
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Bite your tongue young man...
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02-02-2021, 03:40 PM
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#137
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
Did I hear Skinner's contract being mentioned?
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Sure, there are plenty of contracts that would qualify, but why would the Rangers do this? They can just sit him at home and buy him out for a cap hit penalty of something like 800k / 400k, if my math is right. Or you could have a multi-million dollar anchor on your cap for years to come. I just don't see it happening.
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02-02-2021, 04:28 PM
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#138
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Here's Tony DeAngelo's father saying he also would have been suspended in the OHL for using slurs against teammates. Like father, like son.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1267657558350856192
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02-02-2021, 04:33 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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said it like a badge of honour
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02-02-2021, 04:35 PM
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#140
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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His parents obviously failed him. Yes, Tony's an adult and should definitely know better but when you grow up in an environment like he did he was set up to fail. It's a cycle that needs to be broken. Unfortunately for Tony the way things are going he's going to pass it down to his kids just like his dad did to him. Just sad.
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