04-05-2021, 10:46 AM
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#121
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First Line Centre
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I don't cheer for losses/tanking, but man at this point, it may be best we continue sucking and get ourselves a top 5-10 pick/lottery chance
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04-05-2021, 10:47 AM
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#122
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I think this is a good year for the Flames to target some early 2nd round picks when unloading UFAs and making pre deadline trades.
There's got to be a high level of uncertainty outside maybe the top 10, so a good chance to grab some prospects who might have gone higher in a year with a better chance to scout them.
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04-05-2021, 11:06 AM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
After really looking hard at this draft this is the gem we want. I have the same feeling about this guy as I had back in Scheifele's draft year when I was hoping the Flames would draft him but he went earlier. I think this kid has all the tools to develop into that 1st line C we need which is probably why history will repeat itself and he will go before we draft. Hope for a run on the D early and we get a shot at this kid.
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I see Sam Bennett 2.0 when I watch Kent Johnson
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04-05-2021, 11:10 AM
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#124
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by Mattman
Just looked at the overall league standings for the first time in a while and man we suck.
If we are going to suck this hard I won't mind a consolation top 10 pick and a lottery chance.
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Wow... the Flames have a legit chance at being a bottom 3 team in the league. I knew it was bad, but that’s crazy.
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04-05-2021, 11:12 AM
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#125
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
I see Sam Bennett 2.0 when I watch Kent Johnson
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Which is super weird since they play nothing alike. Bennett compable I'm draft year Doug Gilmour. Johnson is more like Marner.
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04-05-2021, 11:14 AM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flylock shox
I think this is a good year for the Flames to target some early 2nd round picks when unloading UFAs and making pre deadline trades.
There's got to be a high level of uncertainty outside maybe the top 10, so a good chance to grab some prospects who might have gone higher in a year with a better chance to scout them.
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Most of the early 2nd round picks are owed by teams out of the playoff race. So I don't know if those are on the table.
Unrelated to your point, but we also have to remember Seattle slots in at #3 pre-lottery so right now the Flames are in the sixth spot by point percent, but that really will be the 7th spot.
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04-05-2021, 11:18 AM
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#127
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Franchise Player
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This is also the year Phoenix forgoes their 1st, which wouldn't impact the Flames first at this stage.
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04-05-2021, 11:32 AM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by showtime
Which is super weird since they play nothing alike. Bennett compable I'm draft year Doug Gilmour. Johnson is more like Marner.
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Johnson has nowhere near the vision that Marner had at the same age.
Plays more of a hard nosed game than marner too. I dont get that comp tbh.
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04-05-2021, 11:43 AM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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The uncertainty in the draft means the Flames should be hoarding picks, no matter the round. A prospect who could have been a late riser in a normal draft might fall to the later rounds. It's a total crap shoot so it's better to have as many lottery balls as possible.
If you can get 7th round picks for Ritchie, Nordstrom, Leivo, Nestorov, Stone, Simon, Rinaldo, then do it. Bennett should be traded, even if it is for a 2nd, same for Rittich. Ryan should get you a 3rd or 4th rounder and this has to happen; DO NOT keep him and think of re-signing him, he's too small for his role.
As for the core, if Treliving and Sutter have identified which ones are going, they should make sure that whatever trade they make will include some picks coming in as well.
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04-06-2021, 01:49 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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04-06-2021, 02:00 AM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
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Calgary picked Matthew Beniers #2 overall. First try... must have won the lottery. Edit: Twice in a row now. It took 5 tried before we got 1st overall.
1 BUF
Owen Power
2 CGY
Matthew Beniers
3 ANA
Luke Hughes
4 SEA
Simon Edvinsson
5 OTT
Brandt Clarke
6 DET
Jesper Wallstedt
7 NJ
William Eklund
8 CBJ
Dylan Guenther
9 LA
Kent Johnson
10 VAN
Fabian Lysell
11 DAL
Aatu Räty
12 STL
Cole Sillinger
13 CHI
Carson Lambos
14 SJ
Mason McTavish
15 NYR
Zachary L'Heureux
16 PHI
Brennan Othmann
17 NSH
Corson Ceulemans
18 ARI
Forfeited
19 MON
Zachary Bolduc
20 EDM
Stanislav Svozil
21 WPG
22 BOS
Oskar Olausson
23 MIN
Francesco Pinelli
24 MIN
Matthew Coronato
25 NYI
Xavier Bourgault
26 VGK
Chaz Lucius
27 TB
Sasha Pastujov
28 CAR
Daniil Chayka
29 TOR
Samu Tuomaala
30 WSH
Simon Robertsson
31 FLA
Isak Rosén
32 COL
Logan Stankoven
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04-06-2021, 07:05 AM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I really don't want the Flames to win the lottery this year because the next couple of drafts look to have amazing players
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04-06-2021, 07:11 AM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Johnson has nowhere near the vision that Marner had at the same age.
Plays more of a hard nosed game than marner too. I dont get that comp tbh.
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I think you are confusing him with Beniers. Johnson is not a hard nosed player at all, he is a skill guy.
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04-06-2021, 07:25 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
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First spin;
1 CGY
Owen Power
D | Michigan
6'5"
214 lbs
18.4 yrs
Canada
PLAYING AT: Michigan
2 SEA
Matthew Beniers
C | Michigan
6'1"
174 lbs
18.4 yrs
USA
PLAYING AT: Michigan
3 BUF
Luke Hughes
D | USA U18
6'2"
176 lbs
17.6 yrs
USA
COMMITTED TO:Michigan
4 ANA
Simon Edvinsson
D | Frölunda
6'4"
185 lbs
18.2 yrs
Sweden
5 OTT
Brandt Clarke
D | Barrie
6'1"
181 lbs
18.2 yrs
Canada
Dare to dream.
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04-06-2021, 07:33 AM
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#135
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Franchise Player
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Does it count as a lottery win if we win the second overall pick?
Edit: found the answer
Beginning with the 2021 draft, only the first two picks will be subject to the lottery instead of the top three, and no team can move up more than 10 picks. Starting in 2022, no team will be able to win the draft lottery — for either of the first two spots — more than twice in a five-year span.
Last edited by albertGQ; 04-06-2021 at 07:36 AM.
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04-06-2021, 07:36 AM
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#136
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Turner Valley
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Powers kind of scares me as a 1st overall pick, givers me Tyler Myers vibes. I was really impressed with Beniers in the WJC, some scouts seem to think he'll top out as a 2nd line Centre, but I thought he looked to have elite potential. Dylan Guenther is also intriguing out of Edmonton in the WHL.
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04-06-2021, 07:45 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
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So looks like we can win the lottery in 2021 and won't count as one of the two wins in a5 year period. So we can also win in 2022 and 2023.
Looks like our next three f1st round draft picks will be Power, Wright and Bedard
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04-06-2021, 07:51 AM
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#138
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First Line Centre
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I'm sick as hell of drafting #6 and not having a 1C. Our remaining games against Ottawa will be key, have to lose those in regulation
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04-06-2021, 08:04 AM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Powers looks like the classic big + can skate overrated player. Scouts see all the potential if the player can actually learn to play hockey well. Those types seem to have a higher than normal bust rate.
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04-06-2021, 08:08 AM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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He looks a lot like Ekblad but maybe that's just me. I think he's a legit #1D but I don't think he's much of a "sexy" pick. I think it's tough when a D is projected to be #1 because everyone wants that dynamic point scoring forward.
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