[Rumour] UPD: Markstrom down to Edmonton or Calgary. Dreger says Oilers out

[Roof-Daddy]

So by the sounds of it Markstrom wants to stay in Vancouver with a NMC but what Vancouver wants is to have him for one more season at least and then, based on next season, have the flexibility to decide whether to protect him or Demko from Seattle.

On paper he's the best option for Calgary to add, because he's been very good the last few seasons on a below average team combined with the fact that they don't have to lose assets to acquire him.

On paper.....

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

On paper.....

My concern with Markstrom is in how much of his improvement and emergence as a starter over the last three years is attributed to Ian Clarke's coaching, and whether he will be able to carry that forward without him.

[FiveSeven]

I wasn't sold one way or the other but I didn't really do any digging myself. After listening to a few Vancouver radio guys and checking out some videos I'm sold. I shall pray to baby Jesus tonight that we get Marky Mark.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So by the sounds of it Markstrom wants to stay in Vancouver with a NMC but what Vancouver wants is to have him for one more season at least and then, based on next season, have the flexibility to decide whether to protect him or Demko from Seattle.

On paper he's the best option for Calgary to add, because he's been very good the last few seasons on a below average team combined with the fact that they don't have to lose assets to acquire him.

On paper.....

I think it's more who to trade

But if markstrom.bas a full NMC, their leverage on Demko is super low

Teams would essentially know, you get nothing or you take what we get, this changes a bit if multiple teams are wanting him, but it's still lower than if you can at least say you might move Marky

I get why he's hesitant, to take the deal that only has a NMC post expansion draft, because he has the chance right now to choose where he goes, it would suck for him to sign, and then potentially have no say in it 12 months from now

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

My concern with Markstrom is in how much of his improvement and emergence as a starter over the last three years is attributed to Ian Clarke's coaching, and whether he will be able to carry that forward without him.

Absolutely he will. We have Sigalet who is going on his sixth year here as the goalie coach. He’s gotta be doing something right.

[Vinny01]

Eklund’s latest

Markstrom Getting MUCH Closer to Market
Markstrom situation coming to a head, and talking to people around the situation it looks very much like he goes to market. Keep your eyes on Calgary. Needless to say, things can change with a phone call.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

My concern with Markstrom is in how much of his improvement and emergence as a starter over the last three years is attributed to Ian Clarke's coaching, and whether he will be able to carry that forward without him.

Like I said earlier. It's a concern, but I don't think it can be a concern that factors into whether you try and sign him or not. If he comes in and he struggles, then you throw money at a coach who he can have that sort of connection with to keep him focused. It would apply to the Canucks next season as well with Clark MIA for a while.

[1qqaaz]

Khudobin a free agent.
93.0% this past season. 92.3% the year before. Career 91.9%. He's old, but he has improved his save percentage in 4 consecutive years.

Another good short term option that would probably cripple the team a lot less than Markstrom's contract would.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Whether it's Markstrom or someone else, it's time this team has a true #1 goalie that can be with the team for at least 4-5 years and carry the majority of work. That's why I'm not into Talbot, Khudobin etc.

We've seen how the teams play changes when they lose confidence in their goalie so it's not just the goalie's play in isolation to be considered. Everything seems to unravel with the first signs of goalie instability.

The team needs that stability and confidence in their backbone to build off of.
The defence need to know the goalie they're playing with systematically and the forwards from there on.

A true #1 is overdue and a huge missing part of this team.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Khudobin a free agent.
93.0% this past season. 92.3% the year before. Career 91.9%. He's old, but he has improved his save percentage in 4 consecutive years.

Another good short term option that would probably cripple the team a lot less than Markstrom's contract would.

Khudobin has only three times in his fairly long career played +35 games, and he topped out at 41 last year as a career high. He's already 34-years-old, and I think there would be a legitimate concern that he can't handle a +50-game workload.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

the thing with the Oilers rumor is the Flames can outbid them on AAV and can go long term as well. The Flames also have been the better team and have his good buddy Lindholm. The mountains and nicer city should clearly make Calgary the favorite over Edmonton.

Burke on the radio this morning based on the people he talked to thinks Markstrom gets to free agency as they can’t agree on the expansion protection.

Good point about the expansion protection. He knows that Demko is potentially the guy they protect and also Demko has a chance of stealing the 1A as early as next year. Smart move for Markstrom to move now to somewhere he feels he's more locked in as the #1 or 1A.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Khudobin has only three times in his fairly long career played +35 games, and he topped out at 41 last year as a career high. He's already 34-years-old, and I think there would be a legitimate concern that he can't handle a +50-game workload.

I agree that it's probably not a good idea to play Khubodin much more than 50 games. Although he didn't seem to slow down much after 25 playoff games this year. He played in almost all of them. The downside is that Khubodin will likely be paid for this accomplishment.

I also think Rittich is serviceable enough to play 30+ games, especially if Khubodin were to play more of the tougher teams.

[Sandman]

IMO, if Markstrom comes here, he'll flop. He's been mediocre his whole career until the last two years. He reminds me of Koskinen-he's good enough to earn a big payday, then he'll fall back to earth. Just an opinion of course, but I would be nervous to throw money and term at him.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Khudobin has only three times in his fairly long career played +35 games, and he topped out at 41 last year as a career high. He's already 34-years-old, and I think there would be a legitimate concern that he can't handle a +50-game workload.

Yeah Khudobin's a great option in the role he's grown into. 1B guy who can steal you some games.

My guess is he goes to Jersey.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Sandman

IMO, if Markstrom comes here, he'll flop. He's been mediocre his whole career until the last two years. He reminds me of Koskinen-he's good enough to earn a big payday, then he'll fall back to earth. Just an opinion of course, but I would be nervous to throw money and term at him.

Keep in mind where Koskinen went to.... plays a rathet huge factor.

The guy would be fine with adequate support in front of him.

[Canada 02]

Khudobin plays behind an elite defensive team. Something Calgary is not. Would he do well here? I think he is a prime candidate to fall off a cliff if he signs most anywhere other than Dallas

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Keep in mind where Koskinen went to.... plays a rathet huge factor.

The guy would be fine with adequate support in front of him.

I just looked up Koskinen's stats, and they look much better under Tippett (.917SV%),so perhaps my example wasn't the best one lol....

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sandman

IMO, if Markstrom comes here, he'll flop. He's been mediocre his whole career until the last two years. He reminds me of Koskinen-he's good enough to earn a big payday, then he'll fall back to earth. Just an opinion of course, but I would be nervous to throw money and term at him.

Well Markstrom was a former 31st overall pick and was very highly touted as a prospect. It took him until 27-28 to really find his footing and he played great for a horrible team.

I am sick of the career backup who looks good in their 30+ games but can’t carry the load when they are called upon

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Well Markstrom was a former 31st overall pick and was very highly touted as a prospect. It took him until 27-28 to really find his footing and he played great for a horrible team.

I am sick of the career backup who looks good in their 30+ games but can’t carry the load when they are called upon

I was going to post something similar....

But to my surprise Koskinen was a 31 OA pick as well. Who was about 28 when he got a shot.

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Eklund’s latest

Markstrom Getting MUCH Closer to Market
Markstrom situation coming to a head, and talking to people around the situation it looks very much like he goes to market. Keep your eyes on Calgary. Needless to say, things can change with a phone call.

Welp that settles it, he's re-signing in Van. Pack it up boys, we're done here.