2020 NHL Entry Draft

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think July 1st is spot on.

January 1st only if the world has a readily available vaccine by that point, which I doubt.

I think December becomes January, which becomes something closer to March, which may have them just taking the year off and starting in September as per usual. (October regular season)

Which seems monumentally unlikely.

There may be a consensus that there is one that will work and not cause overly problematic side effects, but to then produce and distribute billions of doses...could easily take a good chunk of next year.

[agulati]

If they announce the draft for June, and still want to/ plan to try to hold playoffs in July, how are they going to handle the picks that have been traded with playoff performance conditions?

This is going to be a major concern for many NHL GMs, I’m sure.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by agulati

If they announce the draft for June, and still want to/ plan to try to hold playoffs in July, how are they going to handle the picks that have been traded with playoff performance conditions?

This is going to be a major concern for many NHL GMs, I’m sure.

They have already come up with a plan for it. First, teams will be allowed to negoiate with each other. If they can't come to an agreement the NHL will step in. In most cases the conditional picks will be straight forward on getting them agreed upon. I think i read that only 2 cases might be a bit tougher. One of the cases was the Neal/Luici trade. My bet is Calgary ends up with a 4th in the 2022 draft. But that is just a guess.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

They have already come up with a plan for it. First, teams will be allowed to negoiate with each other. If they can't come to an agreement the NHL will step in. In most cases the conditional picks will be straight forward on getting them agreed upon. I think i read that only 2 cases might be a bit tougher. One of the cases was the Neal/Luici trade. My bet is Calgary ends up with a 4th in the 2022 draft. But that is just a guess.

Oh, if that is the case, that does make it much more streamlined.

[Misterpants]

That would be ideal, because an Oiler's 4th in 2022 will basically be a late third.

[dissentowner]

He might have wrote it in fun but Down Goes Brown actually hits it out of the park imo. This is exactly what should happen if there is a June draft.

https://theathletic.com/1790974/2020...-trade-market/

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He might have wrote it in fun but Down Goes Brown actually hits it out of the park imo. This is exactly what should happen if there is a June draft.

https://theathletic.com/1790974/2020...-trade-market/

Some of us don’t have athletic. What’s the idea?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Some of us don’t have athletic. What’s the idea?

Sorry, my bad. He is calling for trading to be allowed due to the circumstances. Everything is changing anyhow and the trade deadline used to be this late years ago. It would generate much more excitement for the draft and would give players that didn't move that wanted a shot like Joe Thornton another chance. It would also solve the issue of GM's who stockpiled picks at the draft to acquire players more flexibility. The only downside I can see to this would be asking a player to move cities during a pandemic however i don't see that as being a huge issue as their family will move too. Or it could even be treated like a trade deadline where a soon to be UFA moves but family stays back. Either way I don't see a negative to it and a real bunch of positive publicity for the league. No matter how it plays out this season will have different rules.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Some of us don’t have athletic. What’s the idea?

The gist is that allow trades to happen before the season recommences in July (basically doing away with the trade deadline that just passed). He does focus on the fact that the NHL is considering a 24 team playoffs for this year. This will allow other teams that might initially not have had a chance to add, to actually add. Goes through the objections in a regular DownGoesBrown Way.

IMO it actually is not the worst idea.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sorry, my bad. He is calling for trading to be allowed due to the circumstances. Everything is changing anyhow and the trade deadline used to be this late years ago. It would generate much more excitement for the draft and would give players that didn't move that wanted a shot like Joe Thornton another chance. It would also solve the issue of GM's who stockpiled picks at the draft to acquire players more flexibility. The only downside I can see to this would be asking a player to move cities during a pandemic however i don't see that as being a huge issue as their family will move too. Or it could even be treated like a trade deadline where a soon to be UFA moves but family stays back. Either way I don't see a negative to it and a real bunch of positive publicity for the league. No matter how it plays out this season will have different rules.

Not sure many teams if any would pick up a player. They won’t know what the cap is for next year. If they don’t start up the league this summer then there will be no increase. I guess a team like Arizona with lots of cap space could make out well.

[Vinny01]

It will be interesting to see how teams navigate the offseason with the draft coming and going. Are freshly drafted prospects going to be moved in the fall/winter during the off-season? The draft is a tool to reshape your team and move it in one direction or the other. With a flat cap, tradeless draft, and short offseason it is going to be very interesting to see how GM’s improve and keep their teams compliant going into next year.

[dissentowner]

What I want to know is how is the league going to handle free agency? I assume contracts will be extended but when will free agency actually occur?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What I want to know is how is the league going to handle free agency? I assume contracts will be extended but when will free agency actually occur?

I think it will be interesting to see how the NHLPA handles it. I am not an expert on contract law, but I don't think the NHL has the ability to extend the contracts without it being a mutual agreement.

I think whether or not it is beneficial to extend or become free agents on July 1st would vary depending on the player. I suspect most high profile players would prefer to become free agents and get an upfront signing bonus on a new contract given the uncertainty of next season starting on time. And while some more budget oriented teams might have a spending freeze, you just know the richer teams are going to want to seize the day.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think it will be interesting to see how the NHLPA handles it. I am not an expert on contract law, but I don't think the NHL has the ability to extend the contracts without it being a mutual agreement.

I think whether or not it is beneficial to extend or become free agents on July 1st would vary depending on the player. I suspect most high profile players would prefer to become free agents and get an upfront signing bonus on a new contract given the uncertainty of next season starting on time. And while some more budget oriented teams might have a spending freeze, you just know the richer teams are going to want to seize the day.

Which brings up a whole new can of worms. If the season has not restarted by July 1st and free agency would go ahead as usual would that not be a twist? Would Hall hit UFA? Could we add him before we restart games? Wtf would St. Louis do if Pietrangelo bolts? Or if the season has resumed that would make it even more chaotic! Imagine those players just walking in the middle of a series! That would be chaotic...and kind of fun actually! It would never happen but that would be hilarious if we did sign Hall and we were somehow playing the Coyotes and the series was tied at 3 or something crazy like that.

[UKflames]

There is a natural order to the season (Regular season, trade deadline, playoffs, draft, free agency) which works because these things have to be done in that order, otherwise there is total chaos.
With the NHL trying to mess with the order of everything, just to get the tv cash, they are actually going to do more harm than good and create more problems.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by UKflames

There is a natural order to the season (Regular season, trade deadline, playoffs, draft, free agency) which works because these things have to be done in that order, otherwise there is total chaos.
With the NHL trying to mess with the order of everything, just to get the tv cash, they are actually going to do more harm than good and create more problems.

Thanks for this. The minor blip in ratings for moving up the draft seems so inconsequential compared to all the major problems this would cause. I can’t think of any practical reason not to move the draft back to the fall before any other leagues commence their new season.

[Toonage]

I can only imagine how well the draft idea went over yesterday during the call with Bettman & Daly now suggesting they need another week before "rushing into a decision"

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I can only imagine how well the draft idea went over yesterday during the call with Bettman & Daly now suggesting they need another week before "rushing into a decision"

The comment I read from Yzerman in Friedman's article seemed like he wasn't supportive of it, and it blatantly favors the Red Wings imo. So I would imagine reception was quite frosty from owners.

[CliffFletcher]

People realize "the NHL" is the owners, right? Bettman and company work for the owners and take their marching orders from them. If there's a rift over when to hold the draft, it's between GMs and owners, not between the league and owners.

[dammage79]

List time!!

Covid has given us the gift of time to look into players more in depth than normal. So this list has been a couple.of weeks in the works and be warned, its very RW themed. Weird!

Flames 1st round:
1. Noel Gunler, Sniper RW. Plays both wings so another weapon for the PP. Good size, above average skating and has that Monny knack of finding space and time in front of the net. Also has a noticeable presence pressuring players in the defensive zone. I personally think he has that Shot that really great scorers have in the NHL, his set up for release is really deceiving.

Really fell in hockey love with this player not too long ago. I think he's the one I want the Flames to nab the most.

2. Rodion Amirov. Best all around option and not a rhs rw. Like his game. Russian factor drops another top talent into the Flames laps if they so choose. Could be a really interesting all Russian line in the future with little Z, Nikolaev in the middle and Amirov on the RW. All shots are off wing! Rare!

3. Jack Quinn. Older player in the draft but only just started taking things seriously in the gym and exploded this year. Average size, rhs plays all 3 forward positions. He's a late bloomer but he really took the bull by the horns this year. Another Ottawa 67 for the Flames? Kelly Hrudey always emphasizes puck elevation close to the net and Quinn does that in his sleep. Its crazy actually. He's really really good at getting top cheese a couple.feet in front of the goalie.

4.Seth Jarvis. Fast playmaker, a titch undersized but has great work ethic. Rhs RW. Mighty talented. Has good work ethic but I also find his style is missing that certain je ne sai quois.

5.Braeden Schneider. Only D man on this list. Rhs D, more of a stay at home.with snarl. We have all the Offensive D men we could ask for, we need a guy to stabilize the defensive zone.

Round 2:
Oliver Suni , RW Finnish player playing in the OHL. Strong finisher.
William Wallinder, D Swedish D man and one of the youngest in the draft, could go in the 1st round depending on how long runs on D men go. I'm torn. How many swedes do we need? Does it matter if we have majority swedes? Probably not. But Wallinder would be a no brainer with the 2nd round pick if he is there.
Dylan Peterson, C draft faller. PWF Centers don't grow on trees though. Worth a shot if the Flames list is dried up


Round 4
Igor Chibrikov, D. 6'7 speedy D man with an enormous wing span. High hockey IQ too? He might be the literal biggest underdog in this draft. Thats it, thats my 4th round choice, no one else. I watched a training video of him doing skating and stickhandling skills and he is fast. Like noticeably fast for a giant. Most 6'6 and taller d men are lumbering brutes, not this one.