Evan Woolley's motion to reconsider Flames Arena funding fails 4-11

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I'm not 100% up to date, but I thought the green line had to go to the SE first because of the location of the maintenance facility?

Aurora Business Park at 96th Avenue N is large enough for a maintenance yard.

But picking the direction of the Green Line based on the ideal location of for a maintenance yard, versus the higher ridership and bus capacity constraints of Centre Street N, is the tail wagging to the dog

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

If this passes I hope the Flames leave. I’m beginning to think our city does not deserve NHL hockey.

Agreed. I'm a life long fan and we have had season tix in our family since the very first game at the Corral v. Les Nordiques.

If this passes I will be 100% behind the team moving. And who knows I will probably leave town myself.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by accord1999

Aurora Business Park at 96th Avenue N is large enough for a maintenance yard.

But picking the direction of the Green Line based on the ideal location of for a maintenance yard, versus the higher ridership and bus capacity constraints of Centre Street N, is the tail wagging to the dog

Is it really an ideal location if you haven't secured the land and ROW's in the North yet?

[dammage79]

Sneaky timing with all the Flames are dealing with. A percent of the focus is taken away from this because of the Peter's scandal.

No chance it's happening, I dont think the city wants the kind of poop storm that will co.e with backing out after a decade + of this arena stuff.

[Corral]

Flames have always been an oil patch toy. No surprise to me if they pack up and leave town when the wells are dry.

The city has been dealt a cruel hand by Kenney for partisan reasons and they should call his bluff

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Corral

Flames have always been an oil patch toy. No surprise to me if they pack up and leave town when the wells are dry.

The city has been dealt a cruel hand by Kenney for partisan reasons and they should call his bluff

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Corral, the source of positivity.

[Reggie Dunlop]

This is political gamesmanship.

The province will delay Green Line funding until a more UCP-friendly municipal government is elected in 2021. They're already assembling a slate and raising money.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Corral

Flames have always been an oil patch toy. No surprise to me if they pack up and leave town when the wells are dry.

The city has been dealt a cruel hand by Kenney for partisan reasons and they should call his bluff

The City should kill a deal negotiated in good faith (and ratified) with a major Calgary stakeholder to call Kenney's bluff?

You have posted a fair bit today. Might want to take a time out.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I'm not 100% up to date, but I thought the green line had to go to the SE first because of the location of the maintenance facility?

If you built the entire thing as a BRT you could avoid this problem.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Corral

Flames have always been an oil patch toy. No surprise to me if they pack up and leave town when the wells are dry.

The Flames cannot just pack up and leave town.

[FiveSeven]

If this passes I'll be moving out of this city! I pull big weight around here.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Rando

The Flames cannot just pack up and leave town.

yes they can

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

yes they can

The league would have to approve relocation.

[GioforPM]

Reconsideration of a motion shouldn’t be allowed absent a change in facts on the ground. I suppose funding cuts might count but as a first step you should have to prove that its a material change to the original application.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by Rando

The Flames cannot just pack up and leave town.

Yes they can.

Sincerely,

The Seattle SuperSonics, San Diego Chargers, Atlanta Thrashers, St Louis Rams, and Montreal Expos.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The league would have to approve relocation.

And they would.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The league would have to approve relocation.

Bettman has already said they need a new building or else.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Bettman has already said they need a new building or else.

oOoOoOoOoOoOoO scary!

The Atlanta Thrashers did not just pack up and leave town either. Their owners lost 160 million over six seasons previous, they were sold, then had to get approval from the NHL board of governors to move. The Flames make over 100million , are a successful franchise and won't be approved.

Factor in the 650million expansion fee the league would miss out on if they just moved a franchise instead of pushing for a new one, which is what they're dong.

Let Bettman and the owners puff up their chests. I put as much stock into it as Wexit.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Rando

oOoOoOoOoOoOoO scary!

The Atlanta Thrashers did not just pack up and leave town either. Their owners lost 160 million over six seasons previous, they were sold, then had to get approval from the NHL board of governors to move. The Flames make over 100million , are a successful franchise and won't be approved.

Factor in the 650million expansion fee the league would miss out on if they just moved a franchise instead of pushing for a new one, which is what they're dong.

Let Bettman and the owners puff up their chests. I put as much stock into it as Wexit.

Yes, because Houston wouldn't be a goldmine for the NHL. I would bet the house if the Flames don't get a new arena and they want to relocate to Houston, Bettman approves it so fast your head will spin.

[shogged]

I want the new arena, but I think the green line is the more important piece of public infrastructure. This will be an interesting debate