[Trade] Mark Stone (8yrs, $9.5mil AAV) to Vegas for Erik Brannstrom, Lindberg, 2020 2nd

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Jore

that's all it took? with extension? i don't like how this looks for calgary at all

Depends on the extension. If Vegas is fine giving him Tavares money, good for them. For the Flames that'd mean bye bye Mr Tkachuk

[N-E-B]

Yeah without a 1st involved I might have pulled the trigger on this if I were Calgary... Brannstrom looks promising but who knows if he will pan out. I think Ottawa got hosed.

[Otto-matic]

At the end of the day, if Neal comes back and regains a bit of his scoring touch and continues to get it back by the playoffs. That's a massive add to our lineup.

Lets roll with this group. They got us in 2nd place in the NHL and are already blowing off the expectations off the barn doors.

[FlamesAreOne]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Who's the better prospect: Valimaki or Brannstrom?

Brannstrom.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

No. The equivalent would have been Valimaki, Alan Quine, and a 2nd

IMO the Flames should have been all over this. I am very disappointed

All over trading Valimaki for a rental? Some of you get too caught up in the deadline day stuff that's largely been a boon to sellers, TSN and RSN. Only one team is going to win the cup and a bunch of picks and prospects have been traded over the past week for nothing.

[Robo]

Yes I am extremely happy we didnt over pay for this guy

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by slcrocket

Noon on deadline day: Come on Brad, don't sell the farm, stay the course. Don't pay a price that is too high. This is a great team being built.

1:00 on deadline day: NOT LIKE THAT

This is why fans can't be general managers. We all lose our minds.

Lol, so true. The biggest fear around here a few days back was upsetting the chemistry of a 1st place team and not selling our future up the river because we've given away picks and prospects before.

Today it's all about how could we not give away our best prospect for a player that's going to eat up significant cap on an extension to boot.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Doesn't seem like nearly as much as I thought, but who knows if Stone was even willing to extend in Calgary.

This is probably a pretty significant component. I know which city I'd choose to extend in and it's not here.

It would be different if Vegas was trash, but they're not.

I'm pretty fine with this. The contract is likely going to be disgusting.

[cannon7]

When Valimaki emerges as a top pairing d-man, you'll all be glad Tre didn't move him.

[Hockeyguy15]

If Stone signs for anything more than 9mil/5 I will be fine that we passed.

[SuperMatt18]

My guess is this actually may have broken down at contract talks.

If the contract is $9M+ on AAV then my guess is the Flames backed away at that point.

Edit: And there it is Mackenzie reporting extension is 8 years at $9M+ for Stone - guarantee that where the Flames backed away.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Who's the better prospect: Valimaki or Brannstrom?

Valimaki, I think. I would say Valimaki's a more complete defenceman.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Who's the better prospect: Valimaki or Brannstrom?

Matter of opinion - I would say value wise they are similar.
So it came down to that. Pretty clearly.

[Jore]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Depends on the extension. If Vegas is fine giving him Tavares money, good for them. For the Flames that'd mean bye bye Mr Tkachuk

yes, time will tell. disappointing, especially since he's going to be in the division and sounds like he will sign for a long time

edit：8 x 9 ? ugh, looks even worse

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bonded

or the Flames cannot make the contract work or Stone did not want to sign here.

I'm not sure how the Flames could have made a contract work with Tkachuk getting a big raise. A few players like Frolik and Brodie would have to be moved out for picks/prospects and then there's the goaltending issue that also needs to be resolved.

[redforever]

Must say I am disappointed if that is all it took to get Stone.

The objective in the NHL is to win the Stanley Cup and if you have a special team, then I am of the mindset, you do what you can to make that happen now.

It is pretty well known what kind of player Stone is but it is only projections for what we think Valimaki and Kylington will bring in the future. I would have given up one of the two to get Stone.

[Johnny Makarov]

Stone has agreed to an extension but not signed, since he is on the phone with Duthie!

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Who's the better prospect: Valimaki or Brannstrom?

Valimaki, much bigger, way better in his own end, top pair is his ceiling. Some of you guys really don’t get that this guy is legit. He carried Tri City last season in the playoffs. Dominated almost every game. Held his own as a 20 year old Dman in the NHL and is doing very well in the AHL.


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[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by cannon7

When Valimaki emerges as a top pairing d-man, you'll all be glad Tre didn't move him.

An important consideration is also that Valimaki will be on an ELC for a few more years, thus extending the window. Adding a huge cap hit like Stone would shorten the Flames window by alot.

[TheAlpineOracle]

There’s only so many spots on D. Hanafin, Andersson, Kylington, Valimaki, Hamonic, Brodie. Can’t keep/pay them all. While I love Valimaki I would have been willing to part with him today assuming a reasonable extension could have been reached.