[Rumour] McKenzie: dealbreaker for Flames is that Sens want Valimaki in Stone package

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

Sens won't be trading for vets. It'll be picks and prospects only.

They still have to make the floor and will need to replace Duchene, Stone and Dzingel with something.

That is why I have a sneaking suspicion (which I am afraid to even utter) that Neal might be part of the package.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Dean Molberg @960boomer
If they do go big game hunting, Valimaki might be off limits but the price will be very high. No Prout, Gawdin and a 3rd... I think teams are very well aware of the youth movement in Calgary.

Reading between the lines, sounds like that means Kylington.

Maybe Mangiapane as a tack-on.

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by AltaGuy

If we get Stone, and he is re-signed, I think the eventual plan is that Johnny would be traded before his contract is up. He’ll fetch whatever we give up for Stone++, and will in all likelihood be paid as a top-10 player at his next contract. NJ/Philly/Boston/NYR will all be major players there.

I believe that’s the longterm thinking on Stone.

No thanks. We trade Tkachuk if we cant fit in both Johnny and Stone unless Johnny explicitly says he wants to go back to the east coast.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They still have to make the floor and will need to replace Duchene, Stone and Dzingel with something.

That is why I have a sneaking suspicion (which I am afraid to even utter) that Neal might be part of the package.

I think it's far more likely that they sign their own version of Raymond of Engelland.

[Enoch Root]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm

that is as good of a top 6 as any in the league - who compares?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

I think it's far more likely that they sign their own version of Raymond of Engelland.

They are going to have to do both. Right now, they have 15 contracts for next year at $46.3M

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm

that is as good of a top 6 as any in the league - who compares?

Tampa and Toronto on paper, but yes that is a very good top 6.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm

that is as good of a top 6 as any in the league - who compares?

Best top 6 winger collection in the league no question.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They are going to have to do both. Right now, they have 15 contracts for next year at $46.3M

I don't see how Neal or any of them would waive to go there.

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[home_sweet_dome]

I really like Stone but it would be weird having a team with 4 top line caliber wingers with
Johnny
Stone
Tkachuk
Lindholm

and around $28M in cap tied up on them. (assuming Stone and Tkachuk sign long term)

Would rather add a top 6 scoring center instead of another elite winger.

[Vinny01]

Neal has zero contract protection.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm

that is as good of a top 6 as any in the league - who compares?

I think some of the eastern powerhouses are that good up front but yeah, that’s a cup contender for sure.

Plus it’s not like our bottom 6 and defense are weak points. The team has great depth

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

What happens if Tkachuk is part of the package to get Stone?

The deal gets vetoed and Treliving is fired?

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

If the price of any deal is having to go with Rittich and Gillies next year, count me as a big no.

This cannot be thanked enough. Does Treliving hate goaltending?

Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, Backlund, Stone up front and Gillies Rittich in net? Million dollar home built on sand.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Neal has zero contract protection.

Totally missed that.
Hmm, now that's interesting.

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[Heavy Jack]

19 1st, 20 1st, Jankowski, Dube for Stone

Brodie, Frolik, Gillies for Zuccarello, McQuaid

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Zuccarello
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Mangiapane - Ryan - Hathaway
Czarnik

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - McQuaid
Valimaki - Stone
Prout

[Duffalufagus]

I don’t see a sign and trade scenario being viable. Ottawa has, by all reports, been hanging onto the pipe dream of resigning Stone and has not let teams talk to him about an extension. Assuming they give up tomorrow, can you really get that type of discussion done in a day or so? This guy is going to want 10 mil per.

[Badgers Nose]

I wonder if Ottawa is on Frolik's 10 team no trade list?

[killer_carlson]

I'm worried Bennett goes in a stone trade.

I really like how Bennett's all round game is shaping up

[heep223]

I’d say flames should just go for it this season. Trade away as many picks as you need to, who cares, this year might be the best shot at a cup they have for who knows how long.

[activeStick]

If Calgary gets and keeps Stone, I don't see Neal with the Flames for long due to age and upside of Stone.