It's self-evident, actually. Sean Monahan bears no responsibility whatsoever for the actions of Matt Dumba - or Mikael Backlund for that matter - no matter how badly you and Erick Estrada want to make him out as a bad guy. Suggesting that he "shoulders some blame" honestly forces me to question your mental faculties.
I can use your exact logic to argue that Andrew Mangipane should feel like a "dumb ass" who "failed to create a safe situation" because he missed a wide open net in the first period. After all, all other things being equal, that would have also made it 3-0. Hell, I could likely use your logic to make any player on either roster out to be the bad guy. Which only underscores how absurd your position is.
Hanifin could have scored too. He panicked a bit and shot before getting any open ice. IIRC Ryan had a chance at the empty net. Backs could also have just fired the puck out instead of skating it. Johnny shouldn't have gone offside. Smith could have let one in (in which case its a one goal game and Monahan is more selfish about shooting).
For those interested, Peters's PC begins @ 20:30. I love how he walks out in the middle of his final answer.
The stupid reporter, asked multiple times about sending Lomberg out on the ice, Peters answered it, that none of what transpired in the final minute should have happened and should have ended with a goal call on Backlund. The reporter tried to bait Peters over and over again, so he just left.
We all know what the reporter was trying to get Peters to admit (that Lomberg was sent on the ice to go after Dumba), but he sure as heck won't discuss it.
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I hope its nothing too serious. If Backlund is out for a few games I actually really want to see how Gaudreau would play with Lindholm at center and Neal on RW. They looked really good together at the short time they were together(about a period). I think it is the perfect time to get Neal going, meanwhile Monahan will still generate plenty of offense.
I would prefer swapping Lindholm and Monahan. I have not been a big fan of either Bennett or Tkachuk with Monahan in the past, and Peters has previously shuffled Lindholm down the lineup to get other lines going. Lindholm centred the third line for the third period in the first Colorado game with great results.
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It's self-evident, actually. Sean Monahan bears no responsibility whatsoever for the actions of Matt Dumba - or Mikael Backlund for that matter - no matter how badly you and Erick Estrada want to make him out as a bad guy. Suggesting that he "shoulders some blame" honestly forces me to question your mental faculties.
I can use your exact logic to argue that Andrew Mangipane should feel like a "dumb ass" who "failed to create a safe situation" because he missed a wide open net in the first period. After all, all other things being equal, that would have also made it 3-0. Hell, I could likely use your logic to make any player on either roster out to be the bad guy. Which only underscores how absurd your position is.
Lol, you guys can be so dramatic.
Mangiapane wan't in a situation where him scoring the goal puts the Wild away and the rest of his team can safely coast for the rest of the game. Monahan was, and I'm sure he fully understood the context of his situation. He made his decision in that moment, it didn't just happen in a bubble separate from the rest of the game. I'd hope in the future he remembers this and chooses to just put the game away instead, that's all I think he should do and have consistently stated as such.
In this particular case, I believe this is Derrek Wills just trying to stick up for a colleague and save face. It would appear very unprofessional, especially in sports media, to throw a fellow sports journalist under the bus. This is one of those things Wills has to say, even if he personally disagrees.
Given that there is no real update yet on Backlund's status; it is baseless speculation. It is not correct, or incorrect.
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The stupid reporter, asked multiple times about sending Lomberg out on the ice, Peters answered it, that none of what transpired in the final minute should have happened and should have ended with a goal call on Backlund. The reporter tried to bait Peters over and over again, so he just left.
We all know what the reporter was trying to get Peters to admit (that Lomberg was sent on the ice to go after Dumba), but he sure as heck won't discuss it.
Yup. I mean, we all know that that is exactly what Peters did - there is literally no other reason why Lomberg would be out there. But admitting it is the difference between being fined (because of the instigator) and suspended.
The stupid reporter, asked multiple times about sending Lomberg out on the ice, Peters answered it, that none of what transpired in the final minute should have happened and should have ended with a goal call on Backlund. The reporter tried to bait Peters over and over again, so he just left.
We all know what the reporter was trying to get Peters to admit (that Lomberg was sent on the ice to go after Dumba), but he sure as heck won't discuss it.
Jermaine Franklin, I cringe everytime he asks a question.
I would prefer swapping Lindholm and Monahan. I have not been a big fan of either Bennett or Tkachuk with Monahan in the past, and Peters has previously shuffled Lindholm down the lineup to get other lines going. Lindholm centred the third line for the third period in the first Colorado game with great results.
If you are changing the top line, yeah, Lindholm and Backlund are way more similar in style and toolset. I just hate messing with the top line the way its going.
I'd also consider Ryan if the idea is to have a checking centre and not worry too much about production. If he's playing McDavid, Ryan can keep up fairly well and win a lot of faceoffs.
If you are changing the top line, yeah, Lindholm and Backlund are way more similar in style and toolset. I just hate messing with the top line the way its going.
I'd also consider Ryan if the idea is to have a checking centre and not worry too much about production. If he's playing McDavid, Ryan can keep up fairly well and win a lot of faceoffs.
Yeah, I would tend to agree.
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Mangiapane wan't in a situation where him scoring the goal puts the Wild away and the rest of his team can safely coast for the rest of the game. Monahan was, and I'm sure he fully understood the context of his situation. He made his decision in that moment, it didn't just happen in a bubble separate from the rest of the game. I'd hope in the future he remembers this and chooses to just put the game away instead, that's all I think he should do and have consistently stated as such.
Mangipane's play did not happen in a bubble separate from the rest of the game either. Nor did any of GioforPM's examples. You're just inventing arbitrary reasons to make Monahan out as the cause of Backlund's injury. Which is frankly pathetic.
I have little doubt that Monahan - as well as every other player on that team - has a far greater understanding of "context of his situation" than you ever will.
In this particular case, I believe this is Derrek Wills just trying to stick up for a colleague and save face. It would appear very unprofessional, especially in sports media, to throw a fellow sports journalist under the bus. This is one of those things Wills has to say, even if he personally disagrees...
He doesn't really, though, does he? I mean Wills can just report Shannon's claim and leave it at that:
"There is no update on Backlund's status, but John Shannon has said that he could be out for a while." Full stop.
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Is be prepared for Backs to sit a couple of weeks. He took a bell ringing there and with his history I can’t see how he would be asymptomatic afterwards.
Mangipane's play did not happen in a bubble separate from the rest of the game either. Nor did any of GioforPM's examples. You're just inventing arbitrary reasons to make Monahan out as the cause of Backlund's injury. Which is frankly pathetic.
I have little doubt that Monahan - as well as every other player on that team - has a far greater understanding of "context of his situation" than you ever will.
Damn dude, who pee'd in your cheerios? I have no idea why you have to take such a antagonist and elitist tone. I'll stand aside and let you and the strawman have at it.
