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		|  10-01-2018, 09:18 PM | #121 |  
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			Rinat Valiev has been called a "Poor man’s Fedor Tyutin"
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		|  10-01-2018, 09:19 PM | #122 |  
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			I have never heard of Valiev or Taormina, but any time Treliving wants to make a trade with Bergevin, I say "by all means, trade away, good sir!"
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		|  10-01-2018, 09:23 PM | #123 |  
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Man Valiev sounds a lot like Kulak.
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		|  10-01-2018, 09:32 PM | #124 |  
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			https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...vers-by-flames
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		| Kulak was adamant that the ripple effect from his arbitration case was not the reason for Monday’s trade. 
 “I don’t think so,” he said. “Me and Brad talked through that whole thing and was like, ‘This is how the business works and that’s why things like that are in place for those situations. We talked and it’s just business and it’s nothing personal. We both get along really well and have a really good relationship. There’s nothing bad between us and the organization.
 
 “It’s a new start … I’m excited.”
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		|  10-02-2018, 07:59 AM | #125 |  
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					Originally Posted by sureLoss  ugg Steinberg talking about losing waiver priority by claiming a player...
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Will Nault (who gets all his "insight" from Steinberg) also referencing this on the morning show today.
 
*Double facepalm*
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		|  10-02-2018, 12:09 PM | #126 |  
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			Flames like Valiev
 Pat Steinberg  @Fan960Steinberg
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 Treliving says as Valimaki emerged, they wanted to give Kulak an opportunity elsewhere.
 
 Also says Valiev, who the team received from Montreal, is well liked by management. Says he’s got a chance to play in the NHL full-time. #Flames
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		|  10-02-2018, 12:12 PM | #127 |  
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			Gotta like how the Flames try to handle player management with class. I am rooting for Kulak, I hope he has a great season.
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		|  10-02-2018, 12:20 PM | #128 |  
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					Originally Posted by sureLoss  Flames like ValievSays he’s got a chance to play in the NHL full-time. #Flames
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I can't wait to see if they like Valiev more than Kylington for the first call-up on LD?
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		|  10-02-2018, 12:28 PM | #129 |  
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				 2014 Predraft notes on Valiev 
 
			
			https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/player...-valiev/19883/
"Mobile defender with emerging defensive abilities and good up ice  instincts. Good soft hands. His long term potential was on a huge  upswing until he decided after the Five Nations Tourney, to return home  to mother Russia without warning to his Indy teammates and staff. He is  being reported as out indefinitely "due to injury", and that injury  might have be North American culture overdose.  He wasn't attempting to  learn English and it also caused issue to him being coachable. You have  to wonder if this player who at one point potential first rounder has  dropped his stock completely out of the draft, but now has resurfaced on  the Kootenay squad with new commitment."
 
They had him projected at #57 in the second round
 
Maybe another high ceiling risky guy like Kylington was???
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		|  10-02-2018, 12:31 PM | #130 |  
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					Originally Posted by BrownDrake  https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/player...-valiev/19883/
"Mobile defender with emerging defensive abilities and good up ice  instincts. Good soft hands. His long term potential was on a huge  upswing until he decided after the Five Nations Tourney, to return home  to mother Russia without warning to his Indy teammates and staff. He is  being reported as out indefinitely "due to injury", and that injury  might have be North American culture overdose.  He wasn't attempting to  learn English and it also caused issue to him being coachable. You have  to wonder if this player who at one point potential first rounder has  dropped his stock completely out of the draft, but now has resurfaced on  the Kootenay squad with new commitment."
 
They had him projected at #57 in the second round
 
Maybe another high ceiling risky guy like Kylington was??? |  
Different game all together for him. Very mobile hitter who's actually better in his own zone. 
 
His English is great when watching a bunch of Marlies interviews with him.
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		|  10-02-2018, 01:21 PM | #131 |  
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			Treliving on 960 says they tried to acquire Valiev when Valiev was still with Toronto.
 Says he was the key to the deal.
 
 Needs to work on getting quicker
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		|  10-02-2018, 04:18 PM | #132 |  
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					Originally Posted by sureLoss  Flames like Valiev
 Pat Steinberg  @Fan960Steinberg
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 Treliving says as Valimaki emerged, they wanted to give Kulak an opportunity elsewhere.
 
 Also says Valiev, who the team received from Montreal, is well liked by management. Says he’s got a chance to play in the NHL full-time. #Flames
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This makes a lot of sense to me. 
 
Kootenay played the Hitmen in the playoffs both years Valiev was there. Flames brass would have seen him a pile those years.
		 
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		|  10-02-2018, 09:06 PM | #134 |  
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					Originally Posted by sureLoss  Treliving on 960 says they tried to acquire Valiev when Valiev was still with Toronto.
 Says he was the key to the deal.
 
 Needs to work on getting quicker
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And just 5 months ago, there was this. 
 
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		| After a brief stint with the Montreal Canadiens after the trade deadline, it looks like Rinat Valiev will be going to play in the KHL |  
	https://awinninghabit.com/2018/04/30...iev-going-khl/Quote: 
	
		| There would be a spot for the young defenceman on Laval’s blueline, but after spending the last three years in the minors, it looks like he’s done with it. |  |  
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		|  10-03-2018, 12:52 AM | #135 |  
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					Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan  Depends what you are willing to give up for Carey Price. It would take a hell of a lot more than Kulak, plus his outrageous salary. |  
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		|  10-03-2018, 01:23 AM | #136 |  
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			5 scraps for Valiev in the minors.
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		|  10-04-2018, 06:49 PM | #138 |  
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If Valiev plays the whole season in the minors and earns $80K, is the other $25K in bonuses?
 
How does that work?
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		|  10-04-2018, 08:17 PM | #139 |  
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					Originally Posted by goodyear  If Valiev plays the whole season in the minors and earns $80K, is the other $25K in bonuses?
 How does that work?
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Say he got a cup of coffee at the NHL level and plays just 2 games (like with the habs) he makes 7,926 a game at the NHL level (650000 / 82 ) two games at the NHL level would net him around 15K which would give him 95K for the year. 105K is a guarentee whether he plays a couple of games at the NHL or no games at the NHL this year so kinda of like a bonus for sure. The flames probabaly expressed their intent going forward and the extra 25K guarenteed whether he’s called up this year or not is a pretty good add in by the Flames.
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		|  10-04-2018, 08:38 PM | #140 |  
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			BTW, fellow newcomer Matt Taormina's AHL salary is $350,000.
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