[News Roundup] Garbage bag day: Monahan had 4 surgeries!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by devo22

those Tkachuk comments and that news on Monahan are spectacular on their own. But man, Francis' comments really do look dumb next to them.

What comments specifically or like just every comment that has ever left this mouth?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

It’s more of a “owners are cheap because they haven’t spent on a top quality coach since 1990...” that’s basically the gripe for most people and just a sense that we haven’t had much success over the past 25 years so we blame the one thing that’s been pretty much constant over that period.

D.Sutter wasn't a top quality coach?..............I beg to differ. Following that while I don't know I agree with the choices, but Keenan and B. Sutter were hardly coaches that came by their roles because they were cheap.

After that, Feaster hired his guy and this latest choice for GG, I do know he' came on the cheap, due to lack of track record. But do we actually think that was a money thing, or was that BT wanting to try a younger "new age" coach, which if I recall, many on here wanted him to go in that direction versus spending big dough on an "old school coach" who the game had "passed by".

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

When exactly did Ferland make this decision?

Through his first 55 games of the season he was pretty consistent and experiencing the most success of his professional career. I think it is much more likely that his production plummeted in tandem with Sean Monahan's injuries.

He was an agitator when he came into the league. That was supposed to be his role in the league. Someone who can open up space for other players on his line, agitate, and pot some goals.

How many times did Ferland make a bone-crushing hit this season? How many times did the other team call him "Ferklund" or even acknowledged his presence post-game?

Before you say that top line players don't need to play that game, there are plenty of guys who do it (Perry, Marchand etc.). He is obviously not as good as those guys but he was extremely effective against Vancouver in the playoffs. Especially when playing with guys like Monahan and Gaudreau - Guys who aren't naturally mean natured on the ice.

Personally, I would take playoff beast Ferland on the third line putting in 10-15 goals a season rather than what we saw this year with his 20 goals. How sweet would it be if we had both Tkachuk and Ferland agitating the crap out of other teams.

[PepsiFree]

Tkachuk is the kind of player that, even if Gulutzan is back next year, makes you believe in this team.

Good statements by Tkachuk and Smith so far, impressed with Monahan’s dedication. Changes need to be made, but there’s still a good foundation in this team.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

What comments specifically or like just every comment that has ever left this mouth?

specifically the "players didn't care and just padded their stats" comments. But yeah, pretty much every comment he makes I guess.

[dammage79]

The only players who really padded stats were Janko with his four goal night and Hamilton. Nobody else really had much going for them. Even Gaudreau dried up once Monny left.

[MissTeeks]

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Tkachuk is the kind of player that, even if Gulutzan is back next year, makes you believe in this team.

Good statements by Tkachuk and Smith so far, impressed with Monahan’s dedication. Changes need to be made, but there’s still a good foundation in this team.

Yes the foundation is decent if it's healthy, but the flames need a winning kind of supporting cast and the stretch drive showed us what they're able to contribute and it isn't enough. The team needs a second line that can score, and consistency/drive from it's third.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Just a reminder, like Edmonton, Eric Francis is no good. Don't fall for his gaslighting nonsense.

while I agree strongly. Was there a "call out article by francis that I missed? i know he spoke of one but did not know if he called players out specifically

[jg13]

Interesting that Hamonic was approached by Team Canada but Giordano was not.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

D.Sutter wasn't a top quality coach?..............I beg to differ. Following that while I don't know I agree with the choices, but Keenan and B. Sutter were hardly coaches that came by their roles because they were cheap.

After that, Feaster hired his guy and this latest choice for GG, I do know he' came on the cheap, due to lack of track record. But do we actually think that was a money thing, or was that BT wanting to try a younger "new age" coach, which if I recall, many on here wanted him to go in that direction versus spending big dough on an "old school coach" who the game had "passed by".

When we hired Darryl he wasn’t a top quality coach, he became that while with us and probably more so while in LA. His extensions probably would count as “signing” a top quality coach but at the time of his original hiring he wasn’t. The Brent sutter hire is kinda in between but certainly not a Babcock/ quennville trotz AV, etc. Type coach

Keenan was well over the hill and had been coaching in Russia if I’m not mistaken. Pretty sure he didn’t command his same fee as he would’ve in his heyday

[MissTeeks]

[Otto-matic]

https://twitter.com/user/status/983380997134729216

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Ahhhhhahahaha!

I see this like office space in a way.

I hope they move his desk downstairs and take his stapler away!

Just what the team wants, then he'll burn the stadium down.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Tkachuk says if games meant something down the stretch, he’d have been in the lineup.

Says he won’t be going to World Championships. #Flames


Aaron Vickers @AAVickers
Tkachuk: “I feel good. It’s obviously a little bit frustrating…very frustrating…just the way things went, the health at the time, important stretch of the year. I wish it didn’t happen but I feel good now.”

My god. I'm going to make an example of Tkachuk and the Flames in this case, but the NHL really needs to take a look at correcting this mentality. It really perpetuates the stigma around concussion and the implications they have on mental health and longer term side effects. There's been so much progress in this area yet the NHL and NFL's of the world still aren't getting it right.

A concussion isn't an injury you can rush back 'if the games matter'. If symptoms were telling the Flames Matthew isn't right, then no matter the game importance I sure hope he'd sit out for the full duration.

[mrdonkey]

To me it speaks volumes that Tkachuk is willing to take more responsibility for this team being a miserable disappointment than Gulutzan is.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

When we hired Darryl he wasn’t a top quality coach, he became that while with us and probably more so while in LA. His extensions probably would count as “signing” a top quality coach but at the time of his original hiring he wasn’t. The Brent sutter hire is kinda in between but certainly not a Babcock/ quennville trotz AV, etc. Type coach

Keenan was well over the hill and had been coaching in Russia if I’m not mistaken. Pretty sure he didn’t command his same fee as he would’ve in his heyday

While I agree, his stock has certainly risen since that time, substantially, as it should have, he was a very successful coach prior to coming to Calgary. If you argument is that he wasn't JQ or Babcock status, then fair enough, but he was certainly a strong NHL veteran coach prior to us hiring him.

I don't disagree with you on the Keenan front, but he wasn't hired because he was cheap, he was hired cause that's who our Manager wanted. Same with B.Sutter, was highly sought after when we brought him here, people were raving about him in NJ.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Get your English to German dictionary from Amazon now Stajan.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

https://twitter.com/user/status/983380997134729216

Matthew is an intelligent kid.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

While I agree, his stock has certainly risen since that time, substantially, as it should have, he was a very successful coach prior to coming to Calgary. If you argument is that he wasn't JQ or Babcock status, then fair enough, but he was certainly a strong NHL veteran coach prior to us hiring him.

I don't disagree with you on the Keenan front, but he wasn't hired because he was cheap, he was hired cause that's who our Manager wanted. Same with B.Sutter, was highly sought after when we brought him here, people were raving about him in NJ.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up.

I still think most fans have watched other teams go out and get great coaches and the whole not even being in on Boudreau last year and it just gets frustrating.

Kinda feels like the one thing we haven’t tried as an organization inthe last 25 years is getting a top quality coach. We’ve tried being fast, we’ve tried truculence and every type of front office possible, but still very limited success.