[PGT] Flames lose another season opener

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff

I know people need to vent but this is some insane vitriol. Aren't you supposed to like your team?

This game was bad, and I hate losing to the grease but people seem really down and angry for game one.

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If this were one game, you would have a point. But it's fifteen #$*@ing seasons in a row.

[---Hatrick---]

I forgot how stressful hockey is

[bubbsy]

Zero gameplan.

Curl into a pk fetal position was the general strategy. I miss d. Sutter coaching. Don't beat the team thru skill beat them by grinding it out. The flames org is trying to stay on pace with the oilers on skill. It's laughable to watch. 5-6 games straight losses due to this idiocy.

Treliving and this coach better figure out a way here, no one's gonna care about all those first round playoff berths and exits if we can't beat the oilers.

[fanman]

Disappointing to say the least...

Smith was good, that`s a definite positive to take away. He held them in the game and gave them a chance to get back in it. Where was the offence and effort? They had a couple of good shifts of pressure the entire game.

I was expecting the 2nd pairing to take a couple games to find chemistry. Brodie needs to step up ASAP. Hamonic actually looked solid. I`ve really been trying to be nice to Brouwer but the guy just doesn`t seem to have it. Can`t wait to see Jagr out there with Bennett and Versteeg.

[CedarMeter]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Laugh at their defense? They totally shut us down tonight! Their defense was rock solid

I agree. They were rock soild. A lot of posters on this board said the D was going to be their down fall. That wasn't the case tonight. Their D played a hell of game.

[Parallex]

Yuck. 3M, Dougie and Gio, and most of all Smith can more or less be satisfied with what they did tonight. Everyone else hang your head in shame. That goes double for Gulutzan... the team was not prepared tonight.

I wish they had left Smith in. Leaving the ice in a shower of hats basically... how undignified.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Dion

It's not BS. Look what happened to the Oilers in the playoffs when McDavid was shut down.

Better defence???

Don't make me laugh!

Their defense was pretty good tonight. Certainly shut us down. Majority of our shots came from the perimeter and were not dangerous by any means. And almost no zone time off the cycle.

[Savvy27]

I'm not going to blame the coaching staff for that one... I just don't believe that is they style of game they are supposed to play. There were so many times that the Flames dumped the puck in and forechecked with one player which led to the Oilers passing D to D and out of the zone. It was so frustrating to watch and I don't buy for a second that they are supposed to be doing it.

I know that some posters get frustrated when there is a whipping boy, but I'm joining the Brouwer pile-on. He's the forward equivalent of Wade Redden and he should be in the minors, as happened to Redden when the Rangers smartened up. When you make every player on the team perform worse you don't belong in the best league in the world. He'll probably be demoted to the fourth line but I genuinely think that he'll drag them down.

Gaudreau and Monahan looked pretty bad. Obviously they can be a lot better and they've earned some patience. Hard when they play like that against a rival though.

Agree with everyone about Brodie... he was terrible.

Positives: Smith! He played great and deserved much more support. Giordano was good defensively. Bennett looked good and I am very excited to see him with Jagr... that's pretty much it for positives.

I'm really annoyed because I was talking to an Oilers fan about how I was excited for the BoA with both teams finally being good and he seemed like he was being polite by saying the Flames would compete for the division.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Oilers just execute everything better than the Flames right now. Their defence even executes better. That's unacceptable. That is what the difference was tonight.

I thought Hathaway and Glass did well. I wouldn't pull them out of the lineup. The 3M line had spurts of good play. That's about it. The defence was non-existent at times. Oilers had last change, but Gulutzan wasn't able to get the Monahan line away from the McDavid line enough (was it even a thought?).

If it wasn't for Smith's REALLY strong play, this may have been an ugly game. I thought this game was fairly lopsided in the Oilers' favor. I really do think it comes down to execution. I hope this is just opening night jitters and nothing more. Oilers played a very strong game tonight, and I am hoping that the Flames just came out flat. There is no excuse for that, but the alternative is even harder to take.

Oh well, hopefully they regroup and collectively pull their heads out of their butts for next game. Way too many chances against. Smith was probably feeling that Arizona was a stronger defensive club than the Flames are.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Racki

This team has absolutely no swagger. Been that way since Hartley was fired. If they truly wanted to ice the best possible lineup Janko would have played and Brodie would be on the other goddamn side of the ice.

This cannot sit well with Burke. The Oilers have kicked the #### out of us for two years now.

"Players coaches " don't ####ing work. You need a hard ass leading any team.

When whas the last time a playera coach won a cup?

I don't think mike Sullivan counsts as one so...

[Classic_Sniper]

Speed and size difference between the 2 teams is seriously unbelievable. Not only are the Oilers much bigger, but 90% of their lineup is faster as well. They skated the puck with ease into our zone and we couldn't do the same nor could we manufacture a decent scoring chance. They outskated us, were stronger on the puck, back checked better and contested every shot and every rush we had.

As good of a job as Treliving has done, certain players on this team aren't quick enough to play or think the game at that pace. We need to inject speed into the line up with the likes of Jankowski. Guys like Stajan, Brouwer, Versteeg and even Monahan and Tkachuk struggled to keep up and make plays. Treliving really needs to put an emphasis on speed or we'll never beat the Oilers at this rate.

[Nammer403]

Onto the next.

[Jbo]

The Flames are pretty awesome at looking good on paper though

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

Amazing to me that the Oilers can move Draisaitl to wing but the Flames can’t with Bennett. Organizational fail.

They must have gotten their hands on some kind of reverse pickeling device.

[Love]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Oilers just execute everything better than the Flames right now. Their defence even executes better. That's unacceptable. That is what the difference was tonight.

I thought Hathaway and Glass did well. I wouldn't pull them out of the lineup. The 3M line had spurts of good play. That's about it. The defence was non-existent at times. Oilers had last change, but Gulutzan wasn't able to get the Monahan line away from the McDavid line enough (was it even a thought?).

If it wasn't for Smith's REALLY strong play, this may have been an ugly game. I thought this game was fairly lopsided in the Oilers' favor. I really do think it comes down to execution. I hope this is just opening night jitters and nothing more. Oilers played a very strong game tonight, and I am hoping that the Flames just came out flat. There is no excuse for that, but the alternative is even harder to take.

Oh well, hopefully they regroup and collectively pull their heads out of their butts for next game. Way too many chances against. Smith was probably feeling that Arizona was a stronger defensive club than the Flames are.

Some of it has to do with coaching schemes. We sit back in the neutral zone and allow McDavid or whoever to catch us flatfooted as they blow by us and gain the zone. While on the other hand, they forecheck us into oblivion and force us to ice the puck and make bad passes which lead to turnovers.

GG has us trying to play a rough and tumble dump and chase game like our weak and slow forwards have a chance at retrieving the puck.

[Racki]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

Amazing to me that the Oilers can move Draisaitl to wing but the Flames can’t with Bennett. Organizational fail.

It is so obvious to many of us that he belongs on the top 6 but since they've decided he's a center they'll let him languish on that third line. Stick him with johnny and monny for chrissakes

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Racki

This team has absolutely no swagger. Been that way since Hartley was fired.

Can someone kindly remind why Hartley was fired?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by zamler

Can someone kindly remind why Hartley was fired?

for being not good

[bubbsy]

Criticize Hartley all you want. He had the balls to bench Wideman game 2. What happens to Brodie and Brouwer game 2? What if they look the same next game, any consequences? Doubt it.

I'm so glad Stajan played tonight. His leadership and veteran experience was so invaluable.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Racki

It is so obvious to many of us that he belongs on the top 6 but since they've decided he's a center they'll let him languish on that third line. Stick him with johnny and monny for chrissakes

It wouldn't be nearly as bad if they didn't tie that anchor with the number 36 jersey on it to him.