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[Looch City]

Snuffleupagus top-10 post seems oddly familiar...how often do you copy and paste from that source?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Religion of peace.com, a website that receives funding from the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a noted far right conversative group which he SPLC has identified as hate-group for their anti-Muslim and anti-Black agenda.

Super weird how he just “accidentally” stumbles upon these hate group sites.

Just google pal, did the list have something you dispute? please, pretty please lets debate your religion of peace

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Snuffleupagus top-10 post seems oddly familiar...how often do you copy and paste from that source?

Your welcome is the debate as well, or is this just one of your drive-by's?

[PepsiFree]

Can’t wait until Snuff posts content from a straight Hitler fan site, “Ohm well, I meant to click the Sportchek jersey link but instead I found this really telling info about how terrible Jewish people are! DEBATE ME.”

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Which items from his post are not true? Can you provide a source that we could read to understand why those items are not true?

I actually started to do so, but gave up after the third one in light of the fact that it's not going to actually do any good. Suffice it to say that the whole list is a mess of half-truths and broad generalizations that don't actually reflect reality anywhere on Earth. So if your goal is to "talk honestly about the problem", you've just failed miserably. This is less than surprising, given that an honest assessment of the problem requires a nuanced understanding of it that you do not appear to be capable of.

For another thing, it's "mother lode", not "mother-load". That's just embarrassing.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Just google pal, did the list have something you dispute? please, pretty please lets debate your religion of peace

Your first point is quite suspect.

The Anti-Balaka groups in the Congo slaughtered Muslims and are Christian based.
The ETA is more political but prodominantly Roman Catholic

So you get to more than a DOzen.

Also that 18,000 number (if correct) includes predominantly Muslim victims so is that people being victims because of their religion or killing in the name of their religion.

What you have is a list of propaganda. Things on the surface that appear true and fact checkable but are intentionally misleading to promote hate.

[taco.vidal]

Instead of a dozen posts arguing about the source, why not post a source that shows how the assertions in his post are false?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Can’t wait until Snuff posts content from a straight Hitler fan site, “Ohm well, I meant to click the Sportchek jersey link but instead I found this really telling info about how terrible Jewish people are! DEBATE ME.”

Hey!!, my wife is Jewish and reads this, she lost family at Buchinwald

In the end your childish post is just another spin away from the content and your inability to truly defend Islam in a debate.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

So if someone commits a crime while in Canada, you think there should be different punishments if they're a Canadian citizen or a foreign national? What if the suspect was here as a tourist rather than a refugee claimant? Would you propose just deporting him instead of applying the same standard of justice we would apply against a Canadian citizen who committed the same crime in that case?

Obviously you are talking about completely different cases, a tourist that comes here is not intending on gaining or earning citizenship and is intending on leaving. If there was a treaty that would force that tourist to be tried for the crimes that they are accused of in their country, or that they would have to serve a full sentence in their own prisons I would be fine with it.

This person was a refugee in a system that is designed to allow him to earn or gain citizenship. That should obviously be denied, we shouldn't waste our time with imprisoning him here, if he goes back to some hell hole country so be it.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Argument from ignorance rabbit hole.

[Dogbert]

The silver lining to the rise of the alt-right and Trumpism is the number of people who've outed themselves as irredeemable, sub-human garbage. I've certainly been able to prune my social circle.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Obviously you are talking about completely different cases, a tourist that comes here is not intending on gaining or earning citizenship and is intending on leaving. If there was a treaty that would force that tourist to be tried for the crimes that they are accused of in their country, or that they would have to serve a full sentence in their own prisons I would be fine with it.

This person was a refugee in a system that is designed to allow him to earn or gain citizenship. That should obviously be denied, we shouldn't waste our time with imprisoning him here, if he goes back to some hell hole country so be it.

Absolutely not if he's facing a death sentence.

Under no circumstances should Canada ever send someone anywhere to face a death sentence. We got rid of it, that means we have to live up to our own standards. We can't pass the buck on the grounds that we're mad.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

The silver lining to the rise of the alt-right and Trumpism is the number of people who've outed themselves as irredeemable, sub-human garbage. I've certainly been able to prune my social circle.

How about the moderate-whatever that arent really moderate at all?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by GGG

Your first point is quite suspect.

The Anti-Balaka groups in the Congo slaughtered Muslims and are Christian based.
The ETA is more political but prodominantly Roman Catholic

So you get to more than a DOzen.

What first point? where did I bring up central Africa in a point?
But looking it up the anti-balaka (Christians) formed when the rebel seleka (Muslims) overthrew the government in a coup

Originally Posted by GGG

Also that 18,000 number (if correct) includes predominantly Muslim victims so is that people being victims because of their religion or killing in the name of their religion.

Been preaching it all along. Radical Islam doesn't discriminate, they will kill Muslims, Christians, little kids, anyone to protect their sic,twisted and perverted version of Islam.

Originally Posted by GGG

What you have is a list of propaganda. Things on the surface that appear true and fact checkable but are intentionally misleading to promote hate.

If it's just propaganda you should have no problem disputing and picking it apart point by point. Your problem is everything I posted is in the historical records and are still being taught today to millions of Muslims around the world

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by driveway

Absolutely not if he's facing a death sentence.

Under no circumstances should Canada ever send someone anywhere to face a death sentence. We got rid of it, that means we have to live up to our own standards. We can't pass the buck on the grounds that we're mad.

We got rid of the death sentence for our own citizens, never understood why in hell should we protect criminals from other countries with our own tax dollars.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

What first point? where did I bring up central Africa in a point?
But looking it up the anti-balaka (Christians) formed when the rebel seleka (Muslims) overthrew the government in a coup


Been preaching it all along. Radical Islam doesn't discriminate, they will kill Muslims, Christians, little kids, anyone to protect their sic,twisted and perverted version of Islam.

If it's just propaganda you should have no problem disputing and picking it apart point by point. Your problem is everything I posted is in the historical records and are still being taught today to millions of Muslims around the world

Your first claim stated that other religions only accounted for a dozen deaths in the past 10 years. Since this is demonstrably false can you please provide a source for all your other claims in the list before I go through and debunk them.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

^ Go nuts, but it's a waste of time. Many aren't even wholly false, just misleading. For example, as an atheist critic of religions, Harris did say that Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas, but subsequently altered his statement to "a mother lode of bad ideas", putting it on a spectrum with all other religions (though he'd say they're all wrong in different ways).

We got rid of the death sentence for our own citizens, never understood why in hell should we protect criminals from other countries with our own tax dollars.

The death penalty is incompatible with Section 7 of the Charter, and particularly where it's going to be applied by an inadequate justice system, so a government action that leads to this guy getting a death sentence in another country would be illegal. So that's why.

[DiracSpike]

Hopefully they deport this piece of garbage back to Somalia, don't even waste the tax dollars keeping him alive in jail.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Argument from ignorance rabbit hole.

Quit being an a$$

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by driveway

Absolutely not if he's facing a death sentence.

Under no circumstances should Canada ever send someone anywhere to face a death sentence. We got rid of it, that means we have to live up to our own standards. We can't pass the buck on the grounds that we're mad.

so let me ask you this question, some guy in Somalia pulls off a terrorist act, kills about 20 people, but manages to flee to Canada. You're of the mind that we shouldn't extradite him back there to face his countries justice which involves the death penalty?

So then what do we do with him, we can''t try him here for crimes there.

do we let him go.

Now before you say its not the same thing.

This person came over here and applied for citizenship by using a refugee claim. He's clearly failed that process now, he's not a citizen, nor should he ever be, so do we imprison him for 20 years here, and then what, when he's released he can't get citizen ship anyways. So we deport him back anyhow.

All we're doing is delaying the inevitable of what we should be doing which is sending him home.

He doesn't deserve our protection.