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Old 03-23-2017, 10:50 PM   #121
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The OOT not good tonight. The one positive bit from tonight is that the wheels are falling off for Talbot. They rode him hard.
Which one do you think he should have stopped?

It was a defense problem tonight, not a goaltending problem.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:06 PM   #122
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Sigh. Look at the score and it's 4-2 after two for the Avs.

Like get real. Why even bother giving a guy some hope you ####ing losers? Might as well have just gotten slaughtered from the word go. I had no hope of an Avs win until I saw that stupid score after two periods.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:13 PM   #123
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Which one do you think he should have stopped?

It was a defense problem tonight, not a goaltending problem.
He should've had the 2nd one for sure. But yes, Oilers d-coverage tonight was a mess. I have no idea what you Oilers fans see in Oscar Klefbom tbh, he's a #3 guy who looks better than he is (usually) playing with a defensive rock like Larsson.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:31 PM   #124
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Serious question- when have the Oilers as a franchise ever been a "good" team when they didn't have generational/hall-of-fame player in their lineup (Gretzky, Messier, Pronger, McDavid).

To call them the Penguins-west would be an understatement.
You can say that about a lot of teams. When has Chicago ever been good without a generational talent/future hall-of-famer in their lineup?
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:38 PM   #125
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You can say that about a lot of teams. When has Chicago ever been good without a generational talent/future hall-of-famer in their lineup?
Toews/Kane/Keith are not generational players. Elite, yes, but not single-handed monsters worthy of the generational tag like Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Lindros, Crosby, McDavid, etc.
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No one cares about LA coming back to beat the Jets?
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:16 AM   #127
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That's it. I'm starting the OOT on Saturday. Enough of this shyte
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No one cares about LA coming back to beat the Jets?
It is a concern, but, the Kings are currently not a close threat to the Flames.



2 at 5

The Kings have never lost in regulation to the Thrashers-Jets franchise at home, the record is now 9-0-4 in 13 games. The Jets were terrible on the penalty killing as the Kings had 3 PPGs, 3/4 on power play. The Jets were also bad with the man advantage as they went 1/4 and the Kings scored a SHG. Yep, special teams were the key stats to this game. Winnipeg had a 2-1 lead after the 1st period and then the Kings turned it on as they out shot the Jets 30-14 over the 2nd and 3rd periods and scored 3 goals in the 3rd.
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Old 03-24-2017, 06:46 AM   #129
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Toews/Kane/Keith are not generational players. Elite, yes, but not single-handed monsters worthy of the generational tag like Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Lindros, Crosby, McDavid, etc.
If you're gonna lump Pronger in with Gretzky and Messier then Toews kane and Keith should be in there too. Future hall of famers.
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Toews/Kane/Keith are not generational players. Elite, yes, but not single-handed monsters worthy of the generational tag like Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Lindros, Crosby, McDavid, etc.
how about 1990 when the oilers won the cup without gretzky.
messier and Kurri were not generational. they were "just" elite.

and yes, you can say pretty well every team would be nowhere without their elite talents. not just the oilers.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:40 AM   #131
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I think the word generational gets thrown around too often. Generational is supposed to mean once in a generation type of players. There are very few players historically who can be considered generational.

Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr and Crosby have earned that title. McDavid has just had one season. I agree that his skill level is great and he has potential to one day be considered generational but it is too early to put that crown on his head already.

The tier below generational is obviously elite. Being elite still means top of your class with exceptional skills. Messier, Lindros, Yzerman, Hull etc etc. will come in this bracket.
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The positive is that Vancouver is mathematically done. They can not catch us anymore.
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F--- Edmonton and their butter soft schedule. They sure have it easy down the stretch.
Since you obviously still haven't grasped the big picture, it bears repeating - you do realize that just means they played the higher-ups earlier, yes? And they're 2 points out of first in the division having done so. No reason for opposing fans to complain about a soft schedule in this regard.
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The only thing up for debate is how often the higher ups were those 19 tired games.
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The only thing up for debate is how often the higher ups were those 19 tired games.
Always a reason isn't there.....
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:45 AM   #136
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Since you obviously still haven't grasped the big picture, it bears repeating - you do realize that just means they played the higher-ups earlier, yes? And they're 2 points out of first in the division having done so. No reason for opposing fans to complain about a soft schedule in this regard.
Still they have benefited from the softest schedule when it comes to the amount of times they have played opponents on the back half of back to backs.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:57 AM   #137
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Does Edmonton's soft schedule matter? Why is it such a focus? I'd be concerned if Calgary had an exceptionally difficult schedule but that doesn't seem to be the case, and if Edmonton has had a "soft" schedule this year then their positioning is inflated and they'll get comfortably bounced in the playoffs.

If Calgary makes it a round further than Edmonton, nobody important is going to talk about their regular season schedule. Let them have it for all I care.
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Oilers are having a better season than the Flames to this point.

Get over it people. Jesus.
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Old 03-24-2017, 09:11 AM   #139
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meh, the Oilers are the Los Del Rio of the NHL, they've had the season of their lives this year, they've had no adversity and everything has come up millhouse for them.



Hey, I think its great for their fans because they've already become incredibly arrogant. So the crash is going to be delicious.

Hey that Draisaitl kid is pretty good right, with the last 6 games being the offensive driver that he is, he's pushing up his dollar value every day, and I hope that McDavid wins the Hart and the Oilers and the NHL talk about him everyday, drive that value up.

The best things that can happen as a Flames fan.

The Oilers make the playoffs

Get crushed in the first round.

End up spending 20 million on two players.

They face some adversity next year and crumble back to being on the outside looking in and end up having to rebuild . . . again.
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Old 03-24-2017, 09:16 AM   #140
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Still they have benefited from the softest schedule when it comes to the amount of times they have played opponents on the back half of back to backs.
Sure. And the Flames benefit from not travelling as much. I think for the most part things even out in the end and you are who your record says you are, good or bad.

Fans on both sides are guilty of over-analyzing how their teams get the short end of the stick in every way imaginable. Both sides should just enjoy the fact their team is heading to the playoffs - not a common occurrence for either team over the past few years.
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