02-07-2017, 06:43 PM
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#121
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by SixPoundBurrito
I think its all on the coach. Gaudreau excels in every competition until GG shows up.
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I have no idea what this means.
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The constant button hooking at the blue line is clearly something that is part of GGs system and its totally neutralized Gaudreau this season.
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Uhhh...Gaudreau has ALWAYS done that...its just this year its all he does and often he fumbles the puck away.
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That and i think the slashing is getting to him and GG seems to be afraid of talking to the refs about anything besides poor challenges.
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Gulutzan talks to the stripes all the time. He just doesnt go beserk and start throwing a fit which is apparently what some segments of the fan base want so the narrative becomes...he does nothing. Its simply untrue.
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02-07-2017, 06:46 PM
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#122
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Lifetime Suspension
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Does anyone honestly see Glen Gulutzan leading this team to a Stanley Cup in the next three years? Maybe they squeeze into the wildcard because their Division is crap and maybe they squeak through a series but that's if the stars align. I hate to crap on my team but that's not good enough, get a guy in who gives us a chance beyond mediocrity. Plug Glen in as coach of Stockton if need be. We're already wasting money on so many player contracts already. Bring in Julien for the rest of the year and give him the chance at a bubble team with a free agent option at the end of the season.
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02-07-2017, 06:46 PM
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#123
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by SixPoundBurrito
I think its all on the coach. Gaudreau excels in every competition until GG shows up.
The constant button hooking at the blue line is clearly something that is part of GGs system and its totally neutralized Gaudreau this season. That and i think the slashing is getting to him and GG seems to be afraid of talking to the refs about anything besides poor challenges.
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You are joking right?
The button hooking is because teams aren't giving Gaudreau space anymore and because he is playing like he is scared of getting slashed.
GG is constantly talking to refs.
Gaudreau is being checked much tighter than he has before and he is struggling to adjust. It has nothing to do with GG or his system, this what happens when you step into star status around the league, teams game plan against you. Gaudreau will figure it out.
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02-07-2017, 06:48 PM
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#124
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by SixPoundBurrito
I think its all on the coach. Gaudreau excels in every competition until GG shows up.
The constant button hooking at the blue line is clearly something that is part of GGs system and its totally neutralized Gaudreau this season. That and i think the slashing is getting to him and GG seems to be afraid of talking to the refs about anything besides poor challenges.
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Please don't tell me you're using the all star game in that "every competition" measurement.
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02-07-2017, 06:50 PM
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#125
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I like Julien, but young skilled players don't always play well with him and a few were sent packing because of it (Kessel, Seguin, Hamilton).
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02-07-2017, 06:54 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Clarkey
Does anyone honestly see Glen Gulutzan leading this team to a Stanley Cup in the next three years? Maybe they squeeze into the wildcard because their Division is crap and maybe they squeak through a series but that's if the stars align. I hate to crap on my team but that's not good enough, get a guy in who gives us a chance beyond mediocrity. Plug Glen in as coach of Stockton if need be. We're already wasting money on so many player contracts already. Bring in Julien for the rest of the year and give him the chance at a bubble team with a free agent option at the end of the season.
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You have incorrectly defined this teams window as now. This team is not a contender right now simply because we don't have the right coach. I'll agree I don't know yet that we do have the right coach, but people are grossly missdiagnosing our situation.
This isn't a team that needs to desperately fire the coach because we are a team about to waste one of our final years if our window with underachivement. We are a young team that plays inconsistent hockey because we aren't fully baked yet,
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02-07-2017, 06:56 PM
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#127
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Also i dont know how you can make a definitive judgement on any coach after 50 games, when the guy didnt see either one of his 2 top offensive players until after training camp and one of them was clearly still recovering from injury.
It's an entirely different system from last year and one that requires all 5 guys on the ice to be 200' players to varying degrees.
It's going to take some time.
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02-07-2017, 08:03 PM
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#128
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Claude Julien is a serious upgrade. Babcock said he's one of the best in the game. It sucks that the Flames are stuck with Gulutzan because of impatience.
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02-07-2017, 08:06 PM
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#129
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damn onions
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I'm not really sure what to make of GG yet. This team is tough to read.
I think his system is boring as #### now but that might just be the NHL now, not sure. Tonight's game (Pittsburgh) was fairly good though I'll admit.
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02-07-2017, 10:19 PM
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#130
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Lots of discussion with Julien landing in Vegas.
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02-07-2017, 10:35 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Whenever Treliving is asked about his involvement in the trade market, his answer is "We're always looking to upgrade our team." And I have no doubt that, even though Brouwer was his big free-agent signing, he'd move him, and even retain some salary, if he could land a true #1 RW with size and skill; i.e. significantly upgrade the team.
Doesn't the same logic apply to coaching? Whether you think Gulutzen has been a total failure, has been OK, or it's too soon to tell, does anyone really think he's as good a coach as Julien? That Julien coming on as coach wouldn't upgrade the team? If not, do you pass up an opportunity to make the team better just on principle or pride?
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02-07-2017, 11:16 PM
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#132
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Scoring Winger
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We're already paying one coach not to coach. Flames are not going to pay 2 coaches salary with neither coaching. Bus has sailed
Like it or not GG here to stay a while urghh
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Whenever Treliving is asked about his involvement in the trade market, his answer is "We're always looking to upgrade our team." And I have no doubt that, even though Brouwer was his big free-agent signing, he'd move him, and even retain some salary, if he could land a true #1 RW with size and skill; i.e. significantly upgrade the team.
Doesn't the same logic apply to coaching? Whether you think Gulutzen has been a total failure, has been OK, or it's too soon to tell, does anyone really think he's as good a coach as Julien? That Julien coming on as coach wouldn't upgrade the team? If not, do you pass up an opportunity to make the team better just on principle or pride?
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02-07-2017, 11:23 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Originally Posted by getoverit
We're already paying one coach not to coach. Flames are not going to pay 2 coaches salary with neither coaching. Bus has sailed
Like it or not GG here to stay a while urghh
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Here, in the US, Buses LEAVE THE STATION...in Canada, they SAIL? 
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02-07-2017, 11:23 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally Posted by getoverit
We're already paying one coach not to coach. Flames are not going to pay 2 coaches salary with neither coaching. Bus has sailed
Like it or not GG here to stay a while urghh
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First, that didn't actually address the question, Kelleyanne Conway.
Second, Hartley is now coaching the Latvian Men's National Team. Doesn't his taking a job coaching another team require him to end his contract with Calgary first?
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02-08-2017, 06:36 AM
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#135
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Can we fire GG and hire Julien now . . . .
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02-08-2017, 07:20 AM
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#136
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I will never cheer for losses
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I imagine Treliving would consult with Hamilton before looking at Julien
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02-08-2017, 08:00 AM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Mike F
First, that didn't actually address the question, Kelleyanne Conway.
Second, Hartley is now coaching the Latvian Men's National Team. Doesn't his taking a job coaching another team require him to end his contract with Calgary first?
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Is coaching the Latvian national team even a paying job?
I doubt he gives up an NHL coaching salary for that gig.
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02-08-2017, 08:06 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Odd as it would be for a first place team to fire their coach, the Canadiens should fire Therrien now to get Julien. Just remind themselves what happened the last time Therrien got fired midseason.
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02-08-2017, 08:14 AM
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#139
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Odd as it would be for a first place team to fire their coach, the Canadiens should fire Therrien now to get Julien. Just remind themselves what happened the last time Therrien got fired midseason.
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How crazy would that hire be. Boston is the enemy, would be something to swoop in and grab their old coach
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02-08-2017, 08:23 AM
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#140
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by jlh2640
Can we fire GG and hire Julien now . . . .
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No.
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